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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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"The imaging system can then stitch the patterns into a detailed 3-D image of your face to determine if you are indeed the owner of your smartphone before unlocking it."

So I pay an extra $300 to save me the trouble of putting my finger on the touchID sensor? That doesn't sound like a compelling value proposition to me.

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post #243

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With security patches?

My OnePlus One has Android 7.1.2 and August security patch (thanks to Paranoid Android)

Mine is still on stock but maybe now is the time to learn how to flash and all. Would you recommend doing it also in terms of camera and stability or is it rather experimental for testing new Android features / proof of concept etc.?

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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post #192

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It's a defensible position, I live in the EU so proximity to heaps of expendable income is not as abundant than in the US middle-class. In the UK we had a saying "the poor man pays twice", meaning that if you buy a shitty rake and it breaks you have to go buy a new one. This is kinda the case with phones too, you can buy a $450 phone with 2 years of updates, or a $700 with 5 years. Which one is more economical over t…

> you can buy a $450 phone with 2 years of updates, or a $700 with 5 years. > Which one is more economical over time? My sub-100USD android apparently. What the heck kind of math do you have going on for "economical?"

Talking in terms of years of support.

$450 / 2 = $225/y of support.

$700 / 5 = $140/y of support.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

#584

A lot of people just get the best iphone every 24 months (e.g. rich people, or people who have a generous smartphone policy at work). Having a model that gets another couple of hundred bucks from those people is pretty clever I think. This is basically the S-class phone (To make a car analogy, because that's what we do). The S-class Mercedes costs twice as much as the "Normal" E-class, and each time they launch a new…

Lots of folks lease S-classes, just like many folks (myself included, maybe) will lease the iPhone X.

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post #127

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> Most new phones are pretty damn good, even the mid range. For the first week, at least. Then they start to accumulate cruft and slow down, eventually becoming barely usable. I've experienced it in the past. I see it happen for my friends and family. I decided some time ago to save up that $750 - $1k and go for the high-range phones, so that I can use them for two or three years without daily frustrations. The top-m…

Please don't spread lies :/ 300-400$ range phones work perfectly well for years and there's now even a staggering amount of pretty good phones covering most usecases from companies like Xiaomi that can be bought for as low as 150$ and they still run about as well as an iPhone 5c.

So they run as well as a 4 year old phone with a 5 year old CPU/GPU? Sounds... not good. Not to mention you can get that 5C for about $100 today, so $50 less than your Xiaomi.

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Its surprising how good a used, $50 phone is today. You can get something on par with a Note 3 or Note 4 from LG and get two solid years of use out of it, perhaps more with ROMs. This is part of why I stopped buying the latest flagship, just didn't make sense for me to worry so much when I could avoid that entirely, and get 98% of the same performance and features.

im still rocking my nexus6 because i dont see a reason to upgrade. before that i was rocking note line from samsung. the only thing that im missing in comparasion with current phones is camera.

There's still no September update, while other phones got it last week. https://developers.google.com/android/ota#shamu

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Nobody looks at a top of the line PC with the best graphics card(s) and say it's crossing a threshold. Everybody understands it's for a certain demographic. According to rumors, they're still going to have various models and price points. Also, iPhones are extremely economical because no other phones receive OS updates for as long. My iPhone 6, which cost $749 at the time, is coming up to 3 years old. It's still flaw…

> Also, iPhones are extremely economical. My iPhone 6, which cost $749 at the time, is coming up to 3 years old. Uh, what? I'm on my second ~$70 Android smart phone in eight years. It's a tad slow, but we're talking about literally a few seconds of waiting, nothing truly inconvenient. I have honestly never been impressed by anything a $600+ iPhone can do beyond what my phone can. The only drawback is that it isn't co…

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Yes! As a twenty something single I was shocked that people saw paying $200 out of pocket each month as a privilege that comes with working. Clearly, for me it was a pure waste because I used exactly zero dollars worth of health care myself. Of course, people with infants absolutely need it. I had a coworker who had basically the same story as Jimmy Kimmel (newborn with heart defect). I can't imagine how much quality…

Until you have a catastrophic health issue like say total kidney failure at 18 which happed to some one I know or you need a transplant I dread to think what my recent kidney transplant would costs in the USA as opposed to the UK

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Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Got a five years old Jolla which still receives updates every other month

That's odd, considering their first phone was launched in stores less than 4 years ago. In any case, I used to have one too until about 2 weeks ago when it finally broke down (tbh, possibly due to moisture). While it's not odd they still release updates for their phone OS for the only phone they've ever sold to regular customers, I can't brush away GP's point entirely. The hardware is definitely sub-par by now (it wa…

Naye, you could get one in late 2013

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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post #558

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> That doesn't protect you against accidental breakage. Check your cardholder agreements. Mine do.

You drop it and break the screen at your own fault and your card will replace it? Sorry I don't buy it.

For first 90 days AmEx "Purchase Protection" covers theft/accidental damage up to the cost of the item, without premiums or special fees. Just use the card to buy it. https://www.americanexpress.com/us/credit-cards/features-ben...
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