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Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by iamwil »

zuck9 wrote: post #489
iamwil wrote: post #313

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Genuinely curious why you think it's true. Can you elaborate?

I don't use it much, or rather at all so I don't have much to say. GitLab has a more appealing UI than BitBucket (likely more features too), they have a great team who hang out here on HN and respond to feedback very quickly, they are actually focused on just GitLab while Atlassian has a lot of projects to work on, and their rate of development is much faster.

Oh, I meant between Gitlab and Github. I imagine it's for similar reasons?

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by jlarocco »

quanticle wrote: post #569
jlarocco wrote: post #414

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Exactly. No acquisition ever starts off with, "We're going to change a bunch of stuff as we assimilate this new company." It's not hard to find "______ is being acquired by ________" headlines on HN, where everybody involved promises not to change anything, and then find the corresponding shutdown post on https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/ sometime a few months later. Unfortunately, even if Jira were really ser…

Exactly. No acquisition ever starts off with, "We're going to change a bunch of stuff as we assimilate this new company." What about FitBit's acquisition of Pebble? Fitbit was pretty clear that they were going to shut down pretty much everything that Pebble was doing, and fold the Pebble team into FitBit. More generally, don't pretty much all acqui-hires work this way?

Good point, I didn't consider the "acqui-hire" scenario. I was only thinking of acquisitions where both companies are too big for that.

I just assumed Trello was too big to be an "acqui-hire", but I really have no idea how big they were.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by rbbitbucket »

mitchty wrote: post #288
sanguy wrote: post #272

This is really bad as Atlassian is like a prize winning show pony -- great marketing and webinars but once you get deeply into the product usage you find all sorts of problems and open issues. BitBucket has been waiting for 2FA for 5 years! Bambo was recently semi-retired going against a lot of users investments. And these are just recent. I would not expect wonderful things for Trello and thankfully it appears they…

I love their response to open issues like: we'd like to be able to delete pull requests. Response: what a silly notion, no Or another one I found recently: we'd like to comment on code that isn't within 10 lines of a changed file. You know, because one line change in file a can impact stuff elsewhere. Or even in another project but the chances of that happening are more slim than a tachyon hitting an atom as it passe…

We appreciate the frank feedback, but I have to disagree with the interpretation.

I really hate that we can't say yes to every feature suggestion, and what we _are_ able to talk about seems to come across as non-committal to some. The fact that a suggestion is open means we think it has merit too (we close "silly notions"), it then becomes a matter of priorities.

- Roger, Bitbucket Server PM

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by pfranz »

nimchimpsky wrote: post #572
pfranz wrote: post #436

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Not sure if you're playing dumb, but Confluence is a wiki. When I was using it, it was much better than any other I've tried (with or without live view). People at my company seemed to gravitate towards Google Docs when that came around--which is much better for creating and updating content, but isn't as good about searchability, linkability, versioning, or pulling docstrings from code. At that same company, we swit…

Confluence is rubbish, awful to use in my experience. For ticketing systems, trello or youtrack.

Do you have any specific criticism or alternatives to Confluence? I get that you're probably venting, but I'm honestly interested in alternatives and just calling it "rubbish" or "awful" isn't useful in any way.

I like Trello, I use it all the time for personal projects, but I just don't see it scaling for large groups. I was surprised to see Unreal Engine using it[1] even if they're only using it to communicate their roadmap (and using something else internally). I thought using Trello was creative and interesting, but I have trouble actually finding and following things.

I use YouTrack at my current job. I guess it works fine for our needs, but it feels clunky and crippled compared to Jira. I'm still using 6.5 (looking to upgrade to 7), am administering it myself, and haven't read too much of the docs, but was surprised it couldn't do some things I expected when I've tried to customize it.

[1] https://trello.com/b/gHooNW9I/ue4-roadmap

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by montecore »

antoniuschan99 wrote: post #454
montecore wrote: post #265

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Fog Creek is dead, long live Fog Creek

Why do you say that? They just sold Trello for half a billion and still have Stack Overflow. I'm sure Fogbugz is profitable although it's not anything stellar and it looks like they have a new product

They shared an office with Trello, but it spun off long ago, so they made no money on this sale. Same goes for Stack, totally separate company. AND now their closest ally, Trello, has been sold to the direct competitor of FogBugz.

Thus, Fog Creek is dead, Long live Fog Creek.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by _ao789 »

tiglionabbit wrote: post #397
deepuj wrote: post #322

This is depressing. Trello is a beloved software for a lot of people. It's sad that Trello decided to sell off to Atlassian. I can't believe the same company that makes Jira is going to run Trello. SourceTree is the only software that they make that doesn't suck.

Nearly every company I've worked for eventually brings in the Atlassian bullshit despite my protest. It usually begins with hiring some project manager who likes Atlassian and forces the hire of an Atlassian shill to configure Atlassian products full time, but it never becomes any good. They pry us off our existing issue tracker and wiki (github, trac) and force us to use that awful content-editable-based wiki that d…

Amen!

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by jtmarmon »

dkrich wrote: post #217
calcsam wrote: post #150

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$10M in funding implies a valuation of $50-100M, which means a 4-8x return not a 40x return.

Also, I'm pretty sure that investment wasn't for 100% ownership, so it's not like that $10 million turned into $400 million. The return would have to be proportional to ownership percentage.

yes that's exactly what the parent is saying. 10M at a 100M post money valuation is 10% of the company. 10% of 400M is 40M - a 4x return

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by supergreg »

edraferi wrote: post #300
chinhodado wrote: post #283

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And don't even get me started on SourceTree. Just about every release since 1.5.2 is a disaster, to the point of almost non-usable right now.

Really? I'm pretty happy with it. Definitely better than Github desktop, and more full featured than the light git extensions you find in most editors. What Git GUI do you prefer?

Checkout gitkraken. Really easy to use. Cleaner interface than sourcetree with almost all the features.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by apapli »

Confluence is starting to move in on SharePoint's turf, I've witnessed it first hand. The two products really don't compare, but for Digital teams who just want to get something going Confluence is way easier.

I think this acquisition will add to the Confluence vs SharePoint story and make Atlassian more attractice.

IF (it's a big if) Atlassian are planning to move into the intranet/productivity tools space this acquisition is really sensible.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by adrienne »

ggregoire wrote: post #305
shostack wrote: post #266

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What was the quote?

I just looked at my emails and actually my message was not exactly accurate. I received the refusal from the CEO and this email contained the following phrase: > sometimes we have to make very painful choices and pass over some extraordinarily promising candidates. Then I asked for feedback and the next reply from the recruiting team quoted this phrase. They didn't give me any feedbacks for legal reasons (?).

Yes - that's very typical for US companies, because they're afraid of being sued. It definitely shouldn't be read as cold or uncaring on the part of the people responding to you; the worst that can be said is that they were paying too much attention to their lawyers. :D
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