Digital Ocean is in trouble!
Don't think so. Not for any disk-heavy or bandwidth-heavy users.
Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
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Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#582I pay ~25$ for 8 gb - 1tb - unlimited bw From online.net.. 80$ is ridiculous
European data centers only though, correct?
OVH has similar prices with a dc in Canada. Worth looking at. Latency will still be high to the west coast, but lightsail is also us-east only, so no real difference there.
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#583Earlier quoted context omitted.
It'd definitely be a gamble, but imagine pitching this idea at Amazon HQ. "We're going to roll out a fantastic new project to allow our customers to spend fewer dollars on our platform!" Not saying Jevon's Paradox wouldn't kick in, but the friction of convincing businesses to work on tools to allow their customers to spend _less_ money is high.
I'm always fascinated when someone mentions a paradox so I looked up "Jevon's Paradox". The real economic term for this is elastic demand (specifically, relatively elastic demand). For example, microprocessor cost reductions make new applications possible, thus demand increased so much that the total amount spent on microprocessors went up for decades. Example of inelastic demand is radial tires. They last four times…
An actual paradox is an apparent paradox that you don't know how to resolve.
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#584Earlier quoted context omitted.
Me too. I want protection against my own stupidity, as well as sheer ignorance of the charges. This put me off AWS for years, and I was deeply shocked there was no one-click 'suspend at x$'. For a company that supposedly puts the customer first, this is appalling.
It's difficult to come up with a good model for how a billing ceiling would work in software as a service. A good start would be to fully specify what behavior you desire when an account hits its billing limit. Are you expecting everything to keep working like normal while the cloud provider pays the bill for those resources, or are you expecting the provider to fully shut everything down in a way that prevents the a…
They already have to make all these decisions for accounts suspended for non-payment (expired CC, etc). This would just add the option for customers that would prefer to be locked out rather than have unexpected charges.
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#585Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm curious what probability you think applies to propositions like "2 + 2 = 4" and "All triangles have 3 sides" and "All triangles have less than 11 sides". Those are great examples, thanks. All true, and there's nothing interesting about them.
"All triangles have 3 sides" might be an uninteresting triviality, but "The sum of the squares of the lengths of the catheti is equal to the square of the length of the hypotenuse in a right-angled triangle" is neither trivial nor uninteresting and yet it has a probability of 1.
Yes, exactly. And "this code has a mathematical error in it" is often interesting, often non-trivial, and often has probability 1 (and often probability 0).
And these things are exactly the sort of thing that "differ from [trivialities about triangles] only in degree of complexity".
Note that "all triangles have 3 sides" is probably an axiom, but "all triangles have less than 11 sides" is a trivial theorem.
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Until you get successful and Amazon copy your implementation.
It'd definitely be a gamble, but imagine pitching this idea at Amazon HQ. "We're going to roll out a fantastic new project to allow our customers to spend fewer dollars on our platform!" Not saying Jevon's Paradox wouldn't kick in, but the friction of convincing businesses to work on tools to allow their customers to spend _less_ money is high.
AWS actually have a "pillar" of architecting called "Cost Optimization". Found it interesting in their GameDay at the AWS Reinvent conference they effectively punish solutions costing too much & being inefficient.
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#587Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm curious what probability you think applies to propositions like "2 + 2 = 4" and "All triangles have 3 sides" and "All triangles have less than 11 sides". Those are great examples, thanks. All true, and there's nothing interesting about them.
"All triangles have 3 sides" might be an uninteresting triviality, but "The sum of the squares of the lengths of the catheti is equal to the square of the length of the hypotenuse in a right-angled triangle" is neither trivial nor uninteresting and yet it has a probability of 1.
I love this example the most. It's the exception that proves the rule.
If you need to dig this hard to find something interesting with a probability of 1, that's pretty good evidence that the vast majority of interesting statements are not of the true/false variety.
Although I don't find it interesting, I am open-minded enough to ... embrace.. the .. uh.. diversity of the world, that allows some people, to find that interesting.
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#588Why would I use that? With Hosteurope I get 4 vCores, 6 GByte guranteed memory (burst to 12), 200 GByte SSD, traffic flat (but only 100 MBity/sec), monthly cacelable for 20 euros.
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#589Hardly a Linode or DO killer yet but could become interesting if/when they:
1). support more linux distros (hint: Debian)
2). let you place instances in other AWS regions
3). let you pool bandwidth quotas across instances
4). improve the cpu/memory competitiveness of their $20+ plans
Also, don't like the firewall being configured via the dashboard (reminds me of the same crappy approach used by scaleway). Alarming too that their SSH console auto logs you in (even if you started an instance with your own public key rather than Amazon's).
Re: Amazon LightSail: Simple Virtual Private Servers on AWS
#590Let me get this straight, right now AWS is billing me $270/mo for 3TB of bandwidth on my autoscaling web servers. With LightSail, I can get that same bandwidth, plus storage and instances for $15/mo? In total, I'm spending about $15,000/yr on AWS, and someone spending $5/mo gets their bandwidth 18x cheaper than me? Shouldn't it be the other way around, and I should be the one with the discount? I get enough headaches…
Someone did a quick testing and apparently the bandwidth speed is capped at 100mbps, and even less for overseas traffic: https://ayesh.me/amazon-lightsail-review