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Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by 72deluxe » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 1:45 PM UTC

Void_ wrote: post #219

72deluxe wrote: post #86

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No offence intended but I took a look at your website (which is very neat and tidy BTW), and looked at the screenshots but I do not see how your app (consisting of mainly a listview control) is "prettier than any others". I can see how having a simple UI with few controls on it can sometimes be translated as "pretty" in certain circles, but simply having few features and few controls doesn't magically mean your app i…

Didn't mean to come out too proud. Really this is just what users have been telling me last 6 months. "I bought it because it looks good." Guess they're just used to worse.

That's good then (and it does look neat). I wasn't meaning to sound too critical either, my apologies.

Out of interest, how did you market it / raise awareness of it?

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by matthewking » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 2:37 PM UTC

brandoncordell wrote: post #555

matthewking wrote: post #401

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Yes its the brand new keyboard that I was referring to, a friend got one from his workplace, space grey looks amazing and the larger trackpad is nice but as mentioned, keyboard is a no go. I really hope the reasoning for it wasn't to shave off a few more mm! I have the 2014 MBP so my comparison is skipping the first generation of butterfly keyboard that you mentioned, I've been told that its worse than that one too b…

I know I'm in the minority here, but I always bring a small mechanical keyboard anywhere I go. Usually something quiet, in case I'm working in a coffee shop or something. A Poker2/3 fits well over the MBP's keyboard without hitting any of the keys on accident.

Yes I've seen people doing that, and I do appreciate a mechanical keyboard, is the typing position a bit high though?

One thing I saw someone mention is that because the new keyboard is wider you might not be able to rest a poker on top anymore, possibly because it won't reach the edges to sit on them without sitting directly on the keys?

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by im_down_w_otp » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 3:18 PM UTC

pkd wrote: post #573

im_down_w_otp wrote: post #568

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The Broadcom wireless card my XPS 13 (9343) Developer Edition shipped with absolutely does not play well with Linux. Including the Ubuntu 14.04 version it shipped with. It's a known issue, and that's not all. When the machine originally launched there were huge problems with the audio, the trackpad, the bluetooth, and the screen brightness control. You don't have to buy it. I did... for $1100, and now it mostly sits…

The Broadcom fix is literally one apt-get install command. The driver issues keep happening because companies are loathe at releasing drivers for Linux or even provide support and assistance for third party drivers. Here's looking at you Realtek. Also I don't understand how something can be bespoke and inefficient at the same time. With MacOS, you learn the Apple way, with Linux you have the freedom to create your ow…

The driver itself is horribly, horribly unstable.

Also. I definitely do not have "the freedom to create my own workflow". No amount of my trying, including digging into window manager, UI toolkits, and application code for KDE, GNOME, or Xfce resulted in my being able to provide consistent keyboard shortcuts across the board. So I wasn't able to get to a point where I could use 30-years of muscle memory and predictability in and across the UX to facilitate my work.

I'm not a noo[n]. I'm a distributed systems engineer and functional programmer.

This "Linux is open source, so it can do anything!" trope is really annoying.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by pmontra » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 3:27 PM UTC

john61 wrote: post #348

pmontra wrote: post #255

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The GPL and payment are orthogonal. They could GPL a piece of software that stops working after 30 days if you don't pay. You decide if to compile out the code that checks for the payment (and possibly distribute your version) or pay them those money.

If it stops working it violates the GPL: Freedom 0: "The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose."

You have the code, so you can run it as you wish.

Does this line make a program un-GPL?

    exit(0) if Time.now > Time.new(2016,11,15,0,0,0)

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by Anasufovic » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 4:00 PM UTC

coryfklein wrote: post #547

snowwrestler wrote: post #210

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The USB-C ports and the processor + RAM limitations will be fixed by time. As soon as Intel rolls out their full Kaby Lake line, the Macbook Pro will get a rev that will improve speed and permit 32GB of RAM. Counting in design and manufacturing time, that could be about a year from now. And USB-C is clearly the future for connectors. In a year or two a lot more peripherals will be shipping with USB-C as the default c…

> As soon as Intel rolls out their full Kaby Lake line, the Macbook Pro will get a rev that will improve speed and permit 32GB of RAM. Can you comment on why you think this is true? A cursory look at Kaby Lake does not seem to indicate any sort of intrinsic change that would allow the MBP to have more memory.

Optimism

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by bovermyer » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 4:36 PM UTC

veidr wrote: post #357

My own burning hatred towards Apple runs a little hotter than most, and I have been seriously googling (and trying) alternatives since 2012. That was when my $9000 Mac Pro — which had been a great machine, and still was, except for the little detail about not having been updated since 2009 and thus being stuck with USB 2 (!!!) to say nothing of Thunderbolt and any kind of modern accoutrements — started to feel like a…

That's fine that you love macOS so much. Seriously. I can even forgive the condescension towards other OSes.

But believe it or not, people exist that prefer other operating systems.

I myself am a gamer as well as a developer, so my primary OS at home is Windows 10. My secondary one which I use for development and writing is Ubuntu 16.10. I recently began abandoning Mac - not because the OS is horrible or Apple is a bad company, but because it no longer syncs with my personal flow. Well, that, and I can no longer justify the pricetag.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by ShriekBob » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 5:04 PM UTC

coryfklein wrote: post #547

snowwrestler wrote: post #210

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The USB-C ports and the processor + RAM limitations will be fixed by time. As soon as Intel rolls out their full Kaby Lake line, the Macbook Pro will get a rev that will improve speed and permit 32GB of RAM. Counting in design and manufacturing time, that could be about a year from now. And USB-C is clearly the future for connectors. In a year or two a lot more peripherals will be shipping with USB-C as the default c…

> As soon as Intel rolls out their full Kaby Lake line, the Macbook Pro will get a rev that will improve speed and permit 32GB of RAM. Can you comment on why you think this is true? A cursory look at Kaby Lake does not seem to indicate any sort of intrinsic change that would allow the MBP to have more memory.

KBL supports LPDDR4 and SKL doesn't. The current Macbook runs SKL.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by ShriekBob » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 5:08 PM UTC

snowwrestler wrote: post #210

Void_ wrote: post #39

I'm really hoping this is just a phase. Hoping that Apple will reduce prices of new laptops and we'll be back to normal. Right now everybody is using Macs. Walk into the Bay Area coffee shop, you see Macs everywhere. I love that. I build desktop software for Macs (focuslist.co). My apps are prettier than any others. They are easier and faster to use. This is the reason why people pay me $5 while they can get the job…

The USB-C ports and the processor + RAM limitations will be fixed by time. As soon as Intel rolls out their full Kaby Lake line, the Macbook Pro will get a rev that will improve speed and permit 32GB of RAM. Counting in design and manufacturing time, that could be about a year from now. And USB-C is clearly the future for connectors. In a year or two a lot more peripherals will be shipping with USB-C as the default c…

I think you're mostly right. The RAM problem will go away. The USB-C thing I think is a total misnomer; it's clearly the future of connectors.

My biggest problem is the obsession with "Thin and Light" crippling system specs. I get that a 11-13" laptop isn't gonna have the best GPU in the world, but I'd like a decent one in my 15" 'Pro' model please...and I'll take a little less thin and light to get it.

This is even more true on desktop. I don't really care about how bulbous you make the back of my iMac or Mac Pro, just give me SLI GTX1080s.

I get it, I'm the niche, I'm a gamer with a Mac, but I still exist.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by yrro » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 5:20 PM UTC

tomtheelder wrote: post #457

AsyncAwait wrote: post #454

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> Nothing works right, on any of them. Copy/paste, batteries, wireless networking, drag and drop, high-res displays, multilingual input, even like fucking word processing and email and image editors and terminal programs... Can you be more specific? i.e. - copy paste with a highlight+middle mouse button is frankly awesome in GNOME. - Batteries - yeah, Windows laptops usually don't have amazing battery life and it can…

> copy paste with a highlight+middle mouse button is frankly awesome in GNOME Oh my gosh, this is my least favorite thing about using gnome! I accidentally paste all the time and can't turn it off particularly easily. Very sad.

You can turn it of in gnome-tweak-tool

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Post by yrro » Thu, Nov 03, 2016, 5:30 PM UTC

chadgeidel wrote: post #503

amirmansour wrote: post #491

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I feel the need to respond here because in every thread about MBPs people mention the Dell XPS line as an alternative, and after buying one I can NOT recommend it as a good buy. The Dell XPS laptops have got one thing going for them: relatively good build quality. They don't feel or look cheap, which already puts it ahead of most PCs in the market. Just walk into your local Best Buy and see the junk they are selling…

It boggles the mind that no "PC" manufacturer has done what Apple has done with hardware design and integration. Apple has been hitting it out of the park for at least 4-6 years, plenty of time for some other company to do it themselves. Even Microsoft is struggling (although the "Surface" products are really good) The only thing I can think is that it's really difficult and expensive to iron out all those little har…

A friend of mine returned his surface pro 4 after 48 hours. A software update bricked it and it would not turn on. It really put me of buying one. My current laptop is ten years old an still going strong with a ram and sad upgrade If it died tomorrow I don't know what I would replace it with.