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Re: OnHub

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Can anyone explain why a Router needs 4GB of storage ? What do they mean by "OnHub has 4GB of storage space, so there’s plenty of room for auto-updates and the latest software features." ? Is software for a router that large ?

A router these days is basically a Linux server.

Re: OnHub

#582
post #572

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Spot on. I don't get it. It's become so obvious and people still seem to categorically refuse to admit the elephant in the room and to act upon it. It's as if everybody was in some kind of unbreakable state of permanent cognitive paralysis.

And still, the HN crowd uses Gmail a lot. Here's the most technical crowd on the planet and people are obsessed with Gmail as if it was impossible to get email to work by any other means. Furthermore, I will never understand why people would use Gmail, if there's IMAP and hundreds of email clients to choose from. Same is true for Google Reader, that apparently caused a lot of buzz when it went away. Never understood…

I would gladly use email client with IMAP server but desktop mail clients are really still in the 90ties.

Do you have a good to alternative Gmail/Inbox which has Inbox like archiving, and easy cleanup of the ... inbox, hiding emails for some period of time, pinning emails?

As for the hosting of emails (assuming I don't want to have 10GB dedicated to emails on my machine), do you have anything that gives me 10GB of mail and has the ease of use of Inbox on all the devices (desktop and mobile)?

Re: OnHub

#583

My biggest issue with this is that Google wants to inject a piece of hardware into my home that acts as the gateway to my data. A device through which all : > Incoming data runs through > Internal data runs through > Outgoing data runs through And then wants to be vague about what data they will be pumping to their back-end for analytics/data mining. I have had a long standing proposal for home automation and I'm cur…

I'm glad that people found this to be a point of significance. I've worked in the commercial networking hardware industry for some years and shelved several consumer ideas due to a lack of interest in security/privacy. I have watched over many years as this 'cloud' software bonanza has eclipsed the tech industry. It went away from its original intent a long time ago and now is used as the holy-grail method of : > ens…

That is why i don't buy into this hype what so ever. Anything that has 'cloud' on it when it doesn't need to I avoid.

I'd rather set up my own router with pf-sense and a industrial WiFi access point.

I really love the concept of complete home automation however the data needs to stay in the home and companies need to ask for permission to mine it.

I have nothing against data mining it can be incredibly helpful but i want full control over weather i choose to share it or charge a small fee for my data.

Re: OnHub

#584

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No way! I deserve the best, and I also deserve the best without giving up anything nothing notta zilch! /s

You're actually giving up $200. Quite a good chunk of change. And no discount for my meta data passing through Google.

Uh, I think that's the discounted price... ;)

Re: OnHub

#585
All the features and problem are solved by EERO, and solved in a much more elegant and consumer friendly way.

I mean Christ, do google even understand UX?

Re: OnHub

#586

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I suppose a workaround could be just an OnHub specific Google Account.

How is creating a Google Account a workaround to creating a Google Account?

How is creating a throwaway Google Account anything other than a minor inconvenience?

Re: OnHub

#587
post #452
post #180

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What about Thread?

Thread and Zigbee both work on 802.15.4, which it supports.

Come to think of it, that's why Google is so behind Thread - they want a mesh networking protocol that's not exclusively local, but can connect each one of the embedded systems directly to the Internet with their own IPv6 address. Although, the protocol does support using a "gateway", too, but I have a feeling that won't be made the priority for most Thread-enabled devices.

Re: OnHub

#588

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Thanks, but shouldn't these features be optional? I still don't get why I need a Google Account.

The router is cloud configured from your mobile device, that is how it works. Some cloud services for the device are actually optional. But AFAIK you still need a Google Account. Here is the help page on the topic of data collection and privacy: https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6246642?hl=en&ref_to... And see also, how to set a whole bunch of privacy settings: https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6279845?vi…

> The router is cloud configured from your mobile device, that is how it works.

So is the Chromecast and you don't need an account for that, unless you want to customize it with your own photos etc

Re: OnHub

#589
post #570

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It allows configuring while not near it too, to check what's wrong with it while at the office. Bluetooth doesn't extend that far.

If you can debug the device remotely, you can debug the device remotely without trusting a third party. There's absolutely no reason your private home router should be a slave to whatever remote configuration, monitoring, or intercept that some third party may be under legal orders to implement. IMO these devices are nothing but parasites. On the positive side, Google has no track record with selling this kind of dev…

I'd say Google has done amazingly well with selling at least one device like this, the Chromecast.

Maybe I'm over-stating the similarities, or the actual success.

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