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How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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Did anybody read the links about the guy that is suing the same cops? http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/index.html?id=2989730 Poor guy got really messed up, has huge medical bills, and obviously filed the lawsuit himself because he has no money and can't spell. Feel way worse for that guy than the OP. If something positive can come out of this story, maybe that guy can find some help from people here.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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post #546

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You don't see that there's a distinction when the behavior in question involves abuse of a position of power?

No, I don't think it's uncommon that incompetent assholes end up in positions of power and aren't pushed out.

This isn't "a position of power" in an office sense. When a person is in a position of power in an office, those the power is over can quit. Still quite a different thing.

And beside that, it's certainly the case that incompetent assholes should be pushed out in other circumstances. It is simply far less crucial when it's not as likely to end people's lives.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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What was the "disturbance"?

It's just a pop-culture reference to Arlo Guthrie's song. Look it up if you like humorous 12 minute long folk-monologues.

Clearly, we all need to walk into our local police station, sing a bar of Alice's Restaurant, and walk out.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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you were not arrested. you were detained. it's called the patriot act. they can detain you for 72 hours without charge and release you without any repercussions.

as fucked up as it is, their actions were legal.

as for stripping you naked, you might have a good shot at a successful lawsuit there.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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A bit more clarification still: Anything you say to them while in custody cannot be used unless you have been Mirandized.

A bit more clarification: what's to stop them from LYING that they have Mirandized you?

A jury of your peers...

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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post #303

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Thanks for sharing. When I read stories like this and the original article, I genuinely wonder how long it will be before the people start to fight back. And I mean literally fight. I'm not for a second suggesting that any individual should fight or even argue with the police, but I can't imagine how an entire society can tolerate this kind of behavior from the police. As much as I hate to say it, it really only seem…

We should at least fight back at the voting booths. Pay attention to local politics!

Pointless, politicians have no control over the police. A guy was elected here as a police reformer, his job was to not resign the current police contract and build a new force that was actually accountable to people who live here instead of federal thugs for hire who had been out of control and corrupt for decades.

Instead he was promptly raided by the same corrupt cops he wanted to disband a week into his term. Slammed with elections funding act violations and dozens of other charges. Didn't matter they were bogus charges, he spent his 4 years in office fighting the allegations and in and out of court, and even though fully vindicated when all charges were dropped and proved to be baseless, it was too late because the political image damage was already done, his party benched him and he soon resigned saying what a sham democracy has become, and how police reform is a pipe dream. The guy who replaced him resigned the contract for another 20 years.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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post #309

This is a perfect example of the disconnect between "hackers" and the real world. I consider myself part of the HN community because I hope for a society shaped by its ideals, but the real world is so far removed that time spent here becomes more of a therapeutic escape than anything else. I strongly recommend people study history, and understand human nature at both scientific and societal levels. There is too much…

> This is a perfect example of the disconnect between "hackers" and the real world. You're reading way too much into this. The OP's story is completely unrelated to "hacker" culture or the faux-libertarian belief system that is fashionable in SF/SV. The OP's story is a perfect example of what happens when people who believe they're smarter than everyone else play games with people who don't play games. Nothing more.…

> The OP's story is completely unrelated to "hacker" culture

> [OP's actions] were driven by the underlying belief that he was smarter than the people he was dealing with.

Not unrelated in the slightest, imo.

Re: How I Ended Up In Solitary After Calling 911 For Help

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I find it sad that the officer could be a "joke around the precinct" - presumably incompetent and apparently eager to abuse their power - and still be an officer.

Police solidarity, and labor unions, for the win!

What professional or semi-professional group doesn't close ranks? From politicians to doctors to plumbers, I can't think of any group where outing a bad apple is the norm.
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