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Re: Claude Fable 5

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I've spent enough time with this now in Claude Code (and Claude.ai and Claude Code for web) to have an opinion on Fable 5: it's a beast. I'm throwing some VERY difficult problems at at - things I've been dragging my heels on for months - and it's crunching through them very happily. One that I'm willing to share (albeit from just a week ago) - I built a Python library last week that bundles MicroPython compiled to WA…

But, but, how does the pelican look?!

See parallel thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48464054

Re: Claude Fable 5

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I'm happy not using llms because I like learning things and working hard. I love writing code, it's genuinely my favorite thing thing to do.

Using llms is the equivalent of driving to the store that's 3 blocks away, just like how that's bad for your body (if done all the time), using llms is as bad for your brain.

Before LLMs, we started relying on certain technologies like Maps apps to navigate, now people can't even get around their own town without having access to various cloud services. The implications of not being able to work, think plan without access to an llm are really bad. Its going to destroy your brain and make you an incredibly average person at best.

LLM people are going to lose the ability to read and think for yourself and then your competency is going to be 1:1 correlated to the quality and quantity of tokens you can afford, or a billionaire is willing to allow you access too. Your work will be the mean (at best), because it will the same quality of output everyone else is capable of.

This is seriously the biggest trap by tech. Your bargaining power for your labor is going to get drastically reduced because you won't be able to differentiate your value from anyone else that has access to an LLM. What happens when everyone has the same skill level for certain work? Idk, ask McDonald's employees how replaceable they are. Use them wisely (or not/hardly at all) don't drive to the store 3 blocks away for every little thing you need.

Re: Claude Fable 5

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post #570
post #534

I've spent enough time with this now in Claude Code (and Claude.ai and Claude Code for web) to have an opinion on Fable 5: it's a beast. I'm throwing some VERY difficult problems at at - things I've been dragging my heels on for months - and it's crunching through them very happily. One that I'm willing to share (albeit from just a week ago) - I built a Python library last week that bundles MicroPython compiled to WA…

I hate how the Instagram/TikTok/YouTube influencer cancer is getting into AI. With early access and all that. It made sense for people doing proper and fair AI breakdowns waiting on an embargo, but now it's just slop I don't trust anymore.

I often get early access but didn't for this one, it's quite possible there's an NDA in an email somewhere that I missed and forgot to sign.

Re: Claude Fable 5

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[Mythos 5] does sometimes still engage in reckless or destructive actions in service of a user’s goals, and our interpretability analyses indicate that it is aware that these actions are transgressive while it engages in them. As with Opus 4.8, rates of evaluation awareness and reasoning about being graded are significant, and not always verbalized; we introduce new and more detailed measurements of the nature of thi…

This is all marketing, you don't have to believe everything a company is saying about themselves, and you shouldn't.

Although, I could see Anthropic making a model purposely dangerous so there are bad outcomes and they can use that to their advantage for regulatory moats, and or in general make people think its more "alive" than it is. For some reason many people associate dangerous actions taken by llms with intent.

Re: Claude Fable 5

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post #534

I've spent enough time with this now in Claude Code (and Claude.ai and Claude Code for web) to have an opinion on Fable 5: it's a beast. I'm throwing some VERY difficult problems at at - things I've been dragging my heels on for months - and it's crunching through them very happily. One that I'm willing to share (albeit from just a week ago) - I built a Python library last week that bundles MicroPython compiled to WA…

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Re: Claude Fable 5

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It's interesting that we're seeing these gains when it seems Mythos/Fable is "just" a scaled up version of their existing architecture[0]. When GPT 4.5 launched, the gains compared to the model size didn't seem that great, leading some to believe that the only progress we'd see would come from RL. This model certainly has quite a "substantial amount of post-training and fine-tuning", but it's also based on a new pret…

Opus 4.0 and 4.1 are more expensive than Fable.

Re: Claude Fable 5

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post #576
post #534

I've spent enough time with this now in Claude Code (and Claude.ai and Claude Code for web) to have an opinion on Fable 5: it's a beast. I'm throwing some VERY difficult problems at at - things I've been dragging my heels on for months - and it's crunching through them very happily. One that I'm willing to share (albeit from just a week ago) - I built a Python library last week that bundles MicroPython compiled to WA…

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I mean yeah, in this case I fed my own open source code directly into it.

Re: Claude Fable 5

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I've been testing this out and I think my SWE career is dead in the water. Genuinely wondering what value I bring to my employer right now. What value I will bring in a few months when this gets cheaper. I think we're screwed. I may only be an SDE 2 at FAANG but I don't think I have promotion opportunities in my future anymore.

If you think the job is just writing code then yes you are screwed, just like if you thought your job was just making punch cards. In most roles you have more responsibilities than plainly converting words into text. You're probably not being paid to simply be a human calculator (otherwise you'd be paid a lot less!).

Re: Claude Fable 5

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post #534

I've spent enough time with this now in Claude Code (and Claude.ai and Claude Code for web) to have an opinion on Fable 5: it's a beast. I'm throwing some VERY difficult problems at at - things I've been dragging my heels on for months - and it's crunching through them very happily. One that I'm willing to share (albeit from just a week ago) - I built a Python library last week that bundles MicroPython compiled to WA…

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Automobiles are not interesting or useful because they're justing using trails the horses already built.
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