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Re: Siri AI

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Post by rTX5CMRXIfFG »

Tepix wrote: post #518

They promised Apple Intelligence with iPhone 15 Pro and more recent models. Now [relevant parts of] Siri AI is restricted to iPhone 17 / iPhone Air and more recent models. People who believed Apple and bought an iPhone 16 to use with Apple Intelligence are getting the shaft.

What Apple said was that on-device models would be from the iPhone Air/17 Pro models and newer. That doesn't mean that the iPhone 15 Pro to 16 wouldn't get Apple Intelligence via Private Cloud Compute, though that probably means they won't have on-device models. I don't remember the marketing for those phones promising on-device models, just Apple Intelligence capabilities in general.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by spacebacon »

Ntrails wrote: post #555
9dev wrote: post #527

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As Psychology is the study of the psyche of white male psychology students, big tech is technology for affluent citizens of San Francisco with a career in IT…

> Psychology is the study of the psyche of white male psychology students Huh? Maybe my uni was an outlier / it is a UK thing, but there were ~99 female and 1 male psych students in my year. This was not considered unusual.

This may support the point further xD

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Planktonne »

rafaelmn wrote: post #384
s3p wrote: post #283

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Jokes aside, I have been using siri to control my smart home and set my alarm for nearly ten years now. I haven't really had problems with basic stuff like this.

>Siri turn off the main light in children's bedroom 100% of the time turns of all the lights in children's bedroom. Alexa has no problem with this. Disappointing to say the least. Completely useless, I was going to get an Android this year on upgrade cycle. Will check this out first.

> Siri turn off the main light in children's bedroom

This is a fascinating example. You would initially assume it's just inconvenient versus flipping a switch--this can't be labour-saving by default.

The only way it makes sense is if you're doing it remotely; from another room, you're putting your children to bed. That's even weirder though, because you're taking what should be a moment of connection/care and trying to automate it. I guarantee your children would value you taking the time.

It's a use-case that is either inefficient or inhuman, and I find it really odd that it's one that you value.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by superkickstart »

2001zhaozhao wrote: post #40

> Private Cloud Compute > Your data is never stored > Used only for your requests > Verifiable privacy promise Apple is cooking. Although at that point might as well bring the cloud features to more devices. Yeah it costs more but also locks users in harder.

Ant they still failed to get past EU privacy regulations at launch.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by rTX5CMRXIfFG »

jesse_dot_id wrote: post #152

I didn't really see anything that knocked my socks off. Mostly, it's the promise that Siri now works in the way in which they said it would work a few years ago, when it didn't. I do like the addition of Siri in the context menu, though. I can see that being useful.

I'm happy about using AI for my work as a programmer, but part of the reason why I was initially skeptical of the tech was that I simply couldn't imagine nor feel the need for much AI features on the consumer side of things, i.e. personal phones and devices for casual everyday users.

What I want Siri to be able to do today is the same as when it launched with the iPhone 4S about 20 years ago: Just set alarms, calendar invites, tweak device settings, and look up answers on the web. The first three it could already do prior to the Siri revamp, the latter is a really nice nice-to-have for iOS 27... but beyond that, I don't believe that AI has many jaw-dropping areas of advancement within the use cases of consumer electronics. B2B applications of AI is where the money and the wow factor is really at.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by stevage »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #550
zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

Extremely surprised we didn’t get the “book me a flight” example that has been an AI demo used over and over but everyone’s so particular about flights I can’t see many people just wanting to one shot it. The laundry list of object removal, spacial photos, better speech to text etc is always just the latest open models just being slapped in there and branded as Apple. Ultimately the meat of this presentation was the…

For me "book me a flight to X on day Y" is so easy to do manually I don't need AI.

Where I do want AI is for really complex queries, like "find me a time and money efficient itinerary through Europe visiting places I haven't been before. Present options and I'll tell you what I don't like about each of them then we'll narrow in on an optimal solution"

Re: Siri AI

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Post by tmoravec »

Mistletoe wrote: post #505
dansquizsoft wrote: post #496

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"I got the top tier of Gemini AI." - that's your issue, get a subscription to a lab offering actual frontier models like Anthropic and OpenAI.

Nonsense. https://livebench.ai/#/?highunseenbias=true

Model != AI tool. Especially with Gemini, the model is fantastic, both in benchmarks and in the API. Sentiment is not that positive for Google AI.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by haute_cuisine »

kennywinker wrote: post #443
nozzlegear wrote: post #427

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is your complaint that the example text message in the image wasn't three paragraphs long? It's just showing search results.

My complaint is this image is supposed to tell the story of how this stuff is useful or new. Finding a message from earlier in the same day and then paraphrasing the message instead of just showing it isn’t useful or new. A simple keyword search uses infinitely fewer GPUs and finds me the info as fast without the risk of hallucinations or datacenter driven environmental collapse. But for whatever reason - because thi…

When there're no real use-cases or solved problems, they have to come up with some fillers, probably Claude suggested this slide.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by johanyc »

brookst wrote: post #319
jaggederest wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What about making Apple Watch specific APIs in iOS be made available to all third-party watch makers so any one can bring any smartwatch and use it just as effectively as the Apple Watch with an iPhone? What about all the AirPods specific APIs that lets Apple offer a better experience with AirPods than a generic bluetooth earbuds? What about Apple Pencil? And so on... Don't threaten me with a good time? All of thos…

Should you be able to use a Samsung SoC in an Apple phone? At some point this is just a debate about vertical integration. Apple can deliver better experiences with it, but of course it limits user choice. Many people want fully modular, open systems, which is lowest common denominator. I can see both sides of the argument, but I am so skeptical of regulators deciding what can be integrated or not. If modularity is b…

> Should you be able to use a Samsung SoC in an Apple phone?

That's irrelevant to the discussion. SoC is not a digital platform in any way under DMA. It's not a platform at all.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by camgunz »

It's bananas to me that people want to put LLMs in critical software paths when the 2nd most valuable company on Earth can't do more than the most basic shit with them. Like, look at this list of actions:

- Take a selfie

- Create a reminder

- Call Vicki

- Rotate photo left

- Create a new event (do you create an old event?)

- Send an email

- Resume my podcast

- Create a note

- Add photo to album

...can't iOS do literally every one of those things already? What the fuck is happening?

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