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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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purelymail.com: $10.00* unlimited** storage, unlimited accounts, unlimited domains *or possibly less if you choose pay-per-use pricing **soft limit if you use way too much

I love PurelyMail, it's cheap and it works well. But it has some downsides: * it's based in the US * it's run by a single guy (bus factor = 1)

Not anymore, now it's actually a team of 3 :)

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Why are people accessing emails from the webUI. Email is SMTP and IMAP, use any number of clients to access your email.

I find myself using the web UI because it's much faster than MacOS Mail, which often gets a bit stuck when downloading new emails via IMAP. I'd prefer to use a native app, but it happened without me thinking - I just ended up going for the fastest option unconsciously.

Try Thunderbird. It's easy to set up IMAP to gmail, and it's very quick. Keep what you want on the server (or download and delete) and just never look at the web client again.

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I can appreciate LLMs for some use cases, but writing emails for the user is the one that really baffles me. It's one thing if you don't speak English well and could use some help making yourself understood, but the amount of native speakers using this is so strange to me. How does this help you? If you can write to the LLM telling it what kind of email to write, you might as well just write the email.

speaking is faster than typing. My current process is:

1. Use Google Eloquent or directly into ChatGPT to dictate the email.

2. Then ask AI to polish, simplify, summarize, and I provide my writing style [0].

That gets sent to the user. I am very careful to not allow the AI to write too much.

The alternative is I spend 20+ minutes writing and re-writing the email.

[0] - https://www.kcoleman.me/writing/slack/2023/03/11/writing-sty...

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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A. Disable the Gemini suggestions if you don’t want it (I did so).

B. If one’s using a free mail service for 16 years, and then came to not liking its recent development, in which world shitting on it in public is the right and necessary thing to do?

C. In which world someone switching mail provider is a top front page news item?

D. If the case in B is not free, then this means the OP was heavier user than my teenage daughter. Thus consumed more of it.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

+1 for Fastmail.

I migrated from Gmail a few years ago. Setting up your own domain is peanuts. Migrating all your mail from Gmail is literally just clicking some buttons in the UI and then it all happens in the background. The interface is fast, robust, and can be configured to have pleasant early '00s levels of contrast.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Probably the nothing to install experience. Every Android phone comes with Gmail and every device has a web browser. Do people have to install Gmail on iOS? I'm using Thunderbird with POP3 accounts, download on my laptop then remove from the server, daily backups. My phone has K9 (the old one with the UI I like) and I never remove messages from the phone. When I send mail from the phone I bcc myself so I can see the…

iOS comes with a mail client. It connects to my exchange, gmail and Zoho accounts. You don’t install gmail, you connect a mail client to it or visit it in a web browser.

This is obviously better, but until just now it never occurred to me that this would be the way iOS users would engage with gmail, since I've only ever used Android. I always thought the iOS built-in email app was just for Apple mail or something.

TIL. We really do live in separate bubbles.

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Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? Cause that is the single most useful feature offered by Gmail that I have yet to find elsewhere. I'm not talking about manually tagging, setting up, and filtering all incoming email before my inbox can self-organize. I mean automatically. Only show me the true primary items in my inbox from the jump. Everything else can wait…

> Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? This is where email MUAs[0] shine. Mail user agents such as Thunderbird[1], KMail[2], Apple Mail[3], and nmh[4] (for hard-core Unix command-line aficionados) support filtering and automatic categorization to varying degrees. All while being mail service agnostic. 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_client 1 - https://e…

Ahem, https://neomutt.org/

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My problem with protonmail (and telegram) is that in my country, only scammers use those two services. So when I encounter these, I immediately distrust the person I'm interacting with and assume the worst. Even my one neighbor uses it and I distrust him immensely as he is not tech savvy yet he uses proton... its strange. How does he even know about it? He and his wife are not forth coming about what they do for a li…

Proton isn't used only by scammers. site:onlyfans.com "proton"

OH.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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BTW, one more thing where Google thinks I'm stupid:

Increasingly, it tries to tie your phone number to your accounts. Fair enough, problems with fake accounts and all that, I don't like it but I understand it.

However, the prompt is invariably "Let us verify it's you. Please enter your phone number:" or something along those lines. With that, you don't verify that it's me. You just verify that someone has a phone number. It's for your protection, not for my protection. Don't patronise me.

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