> Microsoft explicitly tuned Windows 11 to extract the absolute best performance from the new silicon architecture. My lie detector is going off. > The containment features sandbox local agents like Hermes and OpenClaw so they cannot interfere with your core operating system. Wait, isn't that kind of the point of using local agents like OpenClaw? I thought people wanted the agents accessing all kinds of applications,…
Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
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Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
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> Up until this (theoretical) machine, A little earlier than that. With Intel's Lunar Lake / Panther Lake, x86 laptops are again in the same ballpark as a Mac efficiency-wise. There are reputable reviews where people are getting 16-20 hours of battery life out of them doing real work, in both Windows & Linux. M5 is probably still better, but at least the x86 machines don't embarrass themselves any more.
They still run a bit hotter and louder. Outside of that though, there's still hit and miss quality on the PC OEM side of things. 1080p screens are still the default for a ton of models, even higher end ones, and the OEMs keep missing the point of why people prefer Apple hardware. Several are coming out with 8GB machines now at macbook Neo price points with....1920x1200 screens, probably a low quality panel, and quest…
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Are you pretending that Apple doesn't spam you with endless advertisements?
They don't. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't use a Mac.
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Similarly on the higher end, I want to run linux on Apple Macbook laptops.
Isn't there Asahi Linux that boots on Apple Silicon? Never tried it, but people here on HN mention it from time to time.
Asahi only supports M1, M2, and alpha support for M3.
Not that I blame them for the lag, there's a lot of reversing work because apple doesn't document this stuff.
Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
#575They brag about the Nvidia superchip: >The custom NVIDIA superchip challenges both Qualcomm and Apple But it seems NVIDIA didn't have enough in house know how and they needed MediaTek to develop the chip. >20-core NVIDIA Grace CPU (Arm architecture, co-developed with MediaTek)
The CPU is decent, but it does not have any advantage over much cheaper and also faster x86 CPUs.
Similar NVIDIA GPUs can be obtained in laptops with discrete NVIDIA GPUs, but there the GPU has access only to a very small memory.
If you really want an NVIDIA GPU with up to 128 GB DRAM, and you are willing to pay a lot to fulfill this wish, then such a laptop can be a solution for you.
The successor of Strix Halo has been announced recently. The CPU is the same as before, just a little faster, but it is significantly faster than this NVIDIA/Mediatek CPU. What has changed is that it supports up to 192 GB of memory, 50% more than these NVIDIA computers.
However, the GPU of AMD is much smaller, with 2560 FP32 execution units, while this NVIDIA GPU will be available with up to 6144 FP32 execution units, but presumably at a much higher price than the AMD systems.
Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
#576Call me a hater, but the problem is Windows, not necessarily the hardware. I get it they want to stop the MacBook Pro, but: Windows is slow for no reason; it collects everything it can about the user; takes screenshots of whatever the user is doing; has ads - even though you pay for the OS; drivers are still a mess; hardware is made by different companies and no actual proper integration like Apple does. I could go o…
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#577What's conspicuously absent, is the CPU that's going to power this thing. Yes, it's got an Nvidia GPU, but does it have an Intel CPU, an AMD CPU, an Nvidia ARM CPU, or someone else's ARM CPU?
It's the same configuration as GB10. 20 core MediaTek 3nm part which is competitive with a AMD's 2025 16 core 4nm part with similar power draw. https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/cpu2...
The SPEC benchmark is useful to estimate the performance of computers that will run programs that are not optimized for their specific architecture.
The Ryzen was already faster in SPEC, but when running programs that use AVX-512 the difference in speed between the Ryzen CPU and this NVIDIA/Mediatek CPU will be much greater than in the SPEC benchmark.
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#578Prominent dual fans? Hell no. Who would think that’s a good idea? One of the absolutely best things about the MacBook Pro is that it’s silent when you’re not really pushing it. It’s incredibly rare for me to hear them on my M4 Pro. Normal work, including compiling, using docker, my IDE, etc. almost never does it unless I do something big over and over and over. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard a single sound out of my M3…
The M3 air has no fan either, which is a big reason I bought it, as I record acoustic music and having no fan is the best.
Now looking online they didn’t. Or M5.
Well I got SOMETHING confused I just don’t know what. Thank you.
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#579Re: Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra
#580Call me a hater, but the problem is Windows, not necessarily the hardware. I get it they want to stop the MacBook Pro, but: Windows is slow for no reason; it collects everything it can about the user; takes screenshots of whatever the user is doing; has ads - even though you pay for the OS; drivers are still a mess; hardware is made by different companies and no actual proper integration like Apple does. I could go o…
Similarly on the higher end, I want to run linux on Apple Macbook laptops.
With UTM wrapping hypervisor.framework, i have a complete fullscreen desktop running Linux (i use fedora earlier but Arch the last several months) with full graphics as if it were on a dedicated host.
Because it's running in an Apple Silicon hypervisor, i have macos tahoe running concurrently on separate desktops: no dual booting unlike when i was using Asahi.
I haven't looked to see if i can access graphics hardware directly or if it's hidden behind a virtio layer in UTM's wrapping of the hypervisor.framewirk.