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Re: Zed 1.0

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What an abysmal series of top comments. These guys created a phenomenal product using novel technology, which will only continue to improve. Great work to the Zed team.

I agree, the toxic trolls focusing on minor nitpicks like a license agreement that allows your text editor to steal all your source codes really harshes the vibes.

Re: Zed 1.0

#572

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VSCode extensions and the ecosystem is a security time-bomb. Zed looks to be doing things better.

Zed literally downloads random executables and runs them by default without asking

Yes, this is annoying. When doing editor testing, I always also have to open the activity monitor and force quit all extra processes started by Zed.

Re: Zed 1.0

#573
I love zed. What CLI agent and model do you use with it? I am looking for something on par with CC+Opus4.6, possibly subscription-based

Re: Zed 1.0

#574

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I love Sublime, but I don't want to pay to upgrade from 3 to whatever version it is now, Zed is everything I wanted Sublime to be. Honestly, I wanted VS Code but fully native, and I feel like that's what I'm getting from Zed. I feel like some people will be put off by all the "AI" mentioned by Zed, but you're sleeping on a top tier editor where you can just ignore the AI stuff if you don't want it. It's very high qua…

I've tried a lot of editors, including Zed, and always come back to Sublime Text. I use it every day. The #1 reason is because it never loses unsaved files (though I'm still working on breaking the habit of typing a few characters and pressing Ctrl-S). Column editing! Macros! Record/Playback! Configuration! Plugins! Responsiveness! Low resource utilization! Etc! Why wouldn't I pay for it? I've bought all four version…

> never loses unsaved files

This is a big one indeed. I keep many unsaved tmp notes and pastes open all the time. Sublime Text also have it's super smooth pane and window management, so easy to select many tabs, drag and drop tabs to windows etc. Never mind what is unsaved and not. Everything always there on open anyway.

I think this is a highly requested feature in Zed as well, but not sure if they are actually working on this or not.

Re: Zed 1.0

#575
post #438
post #89

I’ve tried it multiple times, but the performance issues on different Macs are too significant to ignore. I appreciate responsive UI, but I also prioritize sufficient battery life.

Which Macs, hardware, OS's? What's your baseline comparison?

Air M2, MBP 16 2019 on Intel. Created bug report where I can’t even use it on Intel sometimes because of 100% GPU usage. On M2 it’s not so bad, but still see 50% GPU usage where other editors with also smooth scrolling are much less GPU hungry, even PyCharm. Just search “CPU” or “GPU” in their issues on GH, there are a lot of them.

Re: Zed 1.0

#576

I was all for trying it until I saw this in the License Agreement: "4.1. Zed's Use of Customer Data Customer hereby grants Zed a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, fully paid-up, non-sublicensable (except to service providers and Customer’s designees), non-transferable (except as set forth in Section 15.1) right to use, copy, store, disclose, transmit, transfer, display, modify, create derivative works from, col…

Oh no.. fuck them, not this shit again.. With AI being so good why isn't someone making fully open source alternatives to all this crap by now? Oh Zed is open source, maybe Codex/Claude can make a VSCodium-like fork off it?

> With AI being so good why isn't someone...

It baffles me that people ask this question all the time and it never occurs to them that perhaps the answer is "because it isn't".

Re: Zed 1.0

#577
post #493

Could anyone tell me what’s the point of this when you have neovim? This will never be an IDE like Jetbrains Rider if you use a language like C# where those guys excel at: sheer volume of refactorings, static and dynamic analysis, cpu and memory analysis, what have you. And for a scratchpad: is this really better than neovim?

Well, if one isn't a vim fan, then neovim isn't going to be a good option.

Re: Zed 1.0

#578
post #484

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If editors own memory usage is your main concern then you should use emacs or even better mg or vi. The editor + its plugins + it's LSP server is what counts. I dont care if zed is written in rust and uses 400MB when it spawns a multi GB nodejs process when I work on my tiny golang project.

I mean all 3 of those also support LSP plugins, so would also spawn "multi GB nodeJS processes" with your tiny golang projects if you enable them.

Yeah but other editors do not foolishly choose to install and run those things out of the box.

Re: Zed 1.0

#579
post #44

I really want to like Zed because they've clearly put so much work into it, but so far I've been sticking with Sublime. I have several large PHP projects that were started in the 2010-2020 era, and Zed will highlight and complain about all sorts of minor things that were standard PHP fare at the time: functions without return types, for example. My code (which works fine) looks like an ocean of red when I view it wit…

Zed felt it had the right to download, install, and run node.js without any permission just to run some LSP (which I don't even use). When I mentioned it here, the devs said that they felt that was fine because their priority was to make things seamless for users such that they don't have to install the LSP manually. Sublime Text, on the other hand, has never installed anything I haven't explicitly asked it to. I'm s…

> Zed felt it had the right to download, install, and run node.js without any permission just to run some LSP (which I don't even use).

Yes. This is bad. Zed keeps installing and running all sorts of random background stuff. This should be an opt-in.

Re: Zed 1.0

#580

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What exactly is phenomenal and novel about Zed? I've tried it a couple of times for a week or so, didn't see the point, and moved on every time. And I'm not luddite swearing by vi or something, I use VSCode and Idea, and have used Sublime for many years, Xcode on/off for some Obj-C/Swift dev, Eclipse for 5-6 years in the 2000s, and vim for everything cli/lightweight since forever. Is the GUI tech what's supposed to b…

Currently on this machine: using 900MB of RAM, including all language servers, with nine open projects - that is pretty phenomenal. VSCode could barely keep one open with the same memory. The perception of 'fast' is very subjective. To me having a smooth, jitter-free UI, low input latency, and instant startup, all matter a lot.

A side effect of Electron crap, before Zed many editors and IDEs on Atari, Amiga, Windows, OS/2, BeOS, Mac OS, NeXTSTEP, were written in fully native code.
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