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I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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I actually don't know what you mean by PWA. Is that a mobile web site? And by installing it, do you mean installing a link to it on a phone's launcher?

Haha. Not sure if this was intentional but this is exactly my point! If someone on HN doesn't know what a PWA is, what chance does the average user have?

Partially, yes. But it was also an honest question.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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post #204

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Pointers are famously difficult to learn and reason about even though the basic principles are simple. Programming in a style that requires direct manipulation of pointers when it's not actually necessary is usually regarded as unwise because it's so hard to get right.

Pointers aren't hard, it's C/C++ that make them complicated. Addresses and indirection in any assembly language are simple and straightforward, easy and even intuitive once you start actually writing programs.

C and C++ pointers aren't any harder than pointers in assembly, at least as far as novices complaining about pointers being hard are concerned.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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I think a lot more people than most HN readers realize simply struggle significantly with abstract thinking and reasoning. It's natural that people who enjoy programming and hacking and related fields are very comfortable with such abstract types of thought. But I really think that isn't all that common amongst most people. I think the average person has to learn such thinking abilities with difficulty (though they c…

> Which is actually why the "files and folders" metaphor is apt. It's a starting point, but I certainly wouldn't say it's the best metaphor that there could be. The idea of subfolders just doesn't make sense in a filing cabinet analogy, because you have to consider paper size - any folder which could fit into another folder is not going to be able to contain your regularly sized documents. That said, I can't think of…

A metaphor doesn't have to be a 1:1 facsimile.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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I can't blame them. We've been force-upgraded to Windows 11 at work and that OS and its apps do their upmost to obscure where files are located. I've frequently saved on OneDrive instead of locally, by accident, and then been perplexed when I try to reopen the file later. And I've been using filesystems for 35+ years, so I feel sympathy for those who don't understand the abstraction. At this point Android is more tra…

> We've been force-upgraded to Windows 11 at work and that OS and its apps do their upmost to obscure where files are located. That's because there's research that users don't understand filesystems. So then stupid companies who make bad decisions like Microsoft and Apple decide that that means they should pretend filesystems don't exist.

More like Microsoft has incentives to push people towards their cloud storage. If there were studies involved in these changes they are just excuses for things that were already decided without them.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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post #357

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Whatsapp "claims" to be e2e, but nobody knows for sure since its sources are closed.

Still more secure than non encrypted email yet a lot of people still use email to send fairly sensitive data.

Email doesn't go through an app controlled by Facebook so I don't agree about your security assessment.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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What most people dont get: Most of folks on HN here are much older than todays "first customers" of 16y/17/18 For them: The "Smartphone is the internet", while for most of us the "Smartphone is an extension of the internet from our desktops" that we were used to (remember the years before dot com bubble, saying: "I will be down in the basement at the computer to surf on the net little bit" ? :-) But today, the very f…

Plus the corollary, which I think is something that many here, including myself, struggle with - we are not important.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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Yeah, it's OK. I said that I wouldn't argue, and I'm sticking to that. Have a great day!

Just thought I'd help you understand how this works so you don't spread misinformation, but you too!

Maybe you should first make sure you fully understand it yourself.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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My company corporate card requires an app because it has an Authenticator to access the website. I tried the ole “but I only have a flip phone” and they said there was no other option. The bastards forced my hand.

There are authenticator extensions for web browsers.

Depends on the technology used - not everything is TOTP.

Re: I won't download your app. The web version is a-ok

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post #273

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old.reddit.com

I've been on reddit since the beginning. If they kill old.reddit, I'm gone.

It's probably the only reason they keep it around - to keep power users from going to or starting a competing forum.
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