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Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by gzread »

PaulKeeble wrote: post #469

Microsoft has spent over a decade swimming against their users interests at this point and during that time frame Linux has been improving its desktop and improving kernel performance. We are now at the point where Linux emulating Window's entire API space for games with worse drivers is dangerously close on performance with none of the privacy invasion and anti user features. Its pretty late in the game for them to…

Linux works about as well on the desktop as it did in 2003 - if you know what you're doing, you can make it work, and if not, you can still run a browser but most things won't work for you.

Linux is better than Windows on the desktop because Windows got worse, not because Linux got better.

Unless you mean for gaming. That was Valve's exit strategy from Windows.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by MindSpunk »

mitkebes wrote: post #503
scns wrote: post #480

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> where Linux emulating Window's entire API space for games with worse drivers is > dangerously close on performance sometimes more performant.

> sometimes more performant. That's usually due to: 1. Converting directX into Vulkan (potentially very large performance gains) 2. Less OS overhead (usually minor gains)

> Converting directX into Vulkan (potentially very large performance gains)

That's not at all how that works. DirectX12 isn't slow by any stretch of the imagination. In my personal and professional experience Vulkan is about on par depending on the driver. The main differences are in CPU cost, the GPU ultimately runs basically the same code.

There's no magic Vulkan can pull out of thin air to be faster than DX12, they're both doing basically the same thing and they're not far off the "speed of light" for driving the GPU hardware.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by lousken »

jiggawatts wrote: post #552
lousken wrote: post #450

What about bringing back old notepad and improving admin apps? MMC snapins haven't been touched in years and still can't even sort those columns properly, search and filtering is terrible Control panel is still not migrated over to settings after 12 years nor you can open two settings apps. Error messages in modern apps are just the worst, how about printing valuable error messages than "something is wrong"? Fixing d…

> improving admin apps? They have a bunch of replacements, all of which are slow as molasses and not feature complete. 1. Server Manager. 2. Windows Admin Centre. 3. Settings App (same as desktop). 4. PowerShell 5. DSC 6. Azure Arc There's also Active Directory Administrative Center which never replaced dsa.msc for me or anyone I've ever worked with. Similarly, there's like half a dozen performance monitor tools for…

i've stopped administrating windows some time ago so hopefully my response is still accurate -

1. deprecated lol

2. i think it can't be run on things like AD, so for very small companies this is annoying

3. ... that's not really an admin app?

4. sure, but then i might as well switch to linux if i have to stick to cli (and i did)

5. last time i checked there were two versions, incompatible with one another, not great alternative to ansible

6. if you have hybrid and are in azure already, maybe? haven't used

I mean it's not like there are not 5 alternatives in azure/intune for every thing as well that are half baked. And 365 and azure is worse with terrible migration guides, ms graph with a combination of commands and json inputs and defaults from 2016.

It's really time for microsoft to fully commit to one thing, make it good, finish it and deprecate everything else.

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by gzread »

reverius42 wrote: post #563
nout wrote: post #482

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there are 3 major points that made Linux much more viable option in the last 2-3 years. 1) Somehow both GNOME and KDE got much better in the last 2 years. It's very smooth and polished experience that I now prefer to both MacOS and Windows. I only need to install 1 or 2 extensions and it's good to go for me. 2) AI! It's orders of magnitudes easier to fix any Linux issue now compared to 3 years ago. The issues…

> we will see a viable, widely used Linux based phone in the next 3 years Isn't there already a viable, widely used Linux based phone OS called Android?

Linux the kernel, not Linux the desktop OS

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by suhputt »

gzread wrote: post #571
PaulKeeble wrote: post #469

Microsoft has spent over a decade swimming against their users interests at this point and during that time frame Linux has been improving its desktop and improving kernel performance. We are now at the point where Linux emulating Window's entire API space for games with worse drivers is dangerously close on performance with none of the privacy invasion and anti user features. Its pretty late in the game for them to…

Linux works about as well on the desktop as it did in 2003 - if you know what you're doing, you can make it work, and if not, you can still run a browser but most things won't work for you. Linux is better than Windows on the desktop because Windows got worse, not because Linux got better. Unless you mean for gaming. That was Valve's exit strategy from Windows.

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Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by lta »

If you had to commit to Windows quality you'd have done so a few decades ago.

Also, Linux (via Android, micro computers everywhere and the vast internet) touches way more lives then Microsoft.

At this point in the article I realized I didn't care one bit and stopped reading

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by contextfree »

hbn wrote: post #91
protoster wrote: post #81

So why did they make taskbar bottom only in the first place? Too difficult to implement? Branding? No room for ads when it's vertical?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong cause I don't recall where I got this understanding from, but I believe Windows 11 still has the Windows 10 taskbar, but a startup process basically hides it and replaces it with a brand new one they made for Windows 11, built with web technologies. And they probably just never got around to figuring out how to put it somewhere else on the screen since they didn't inherit that behaviou…

It doesn't use web technologies

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by anonymars »

the_snooze wrote: post #125
xvector wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely nothing wrong with an "agentic OS", agentic UX is the future of personal computing. The ideal is that something intelligent understands what you want to do and gets it done. Unless you really think we've reached the pinnacle of user interface with repetitive clicking around and menus. The problem is with shoving AI down user's throats. Make it an option, not the only option.

We’ve had computing technology that clearly understands what the user wants to do. It’s called a command line interface. No guessing, no recommendations, no dark patterns, no bullshit.

"I just ran rm -rf /* accidentally, but I meant rm -rf ./* (notice the star after the slash)."

https://serverfault.com/questions/337082/

Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by suhputt »

999900000999 wrote: post #499
PaulKeeble wrote: post #469

Microsoft has spent over a decade swimming against their users interests at this point and during that time frame Linux has been improving its desktop and improving kernel performance. We are now at the point where Linux emulating Window's entire API space for games with worse drivers is dangerously close on performance with none of the privacy invasion and anti user features. Its pretty late in the game for them to…

Normal people can not install an OS. Aside from like 3 ThinkPads on Lenovo's website, you can't really buy Linux pre installed on a computer. This is about the MacBook Neo coming for the budget laptop market. At 500$ it's an easy choice.

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Re: Our commitment to Windows quality

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Post by rstat1 »

gzread wrote: post #571
PaulKeeble wrote: post #469

Microsoft has spent over a decade swimming against their users interests at this point and during that time frame Linux has been improving its desktop and improving kernel performance. We are now at the point where Linux emulating Window's entire API space for games with worse drivers is dangerously close on performance with none of the privacy invasion and anti user features. Its pretty late in the game for them to…

Linux works about as well on the desktop as it did in 2003 - if you know what you're doing, you can make it work, and if not, you can still run a browser but most things won't work for you. Linux is better than Windows on the desktop because Windows got worse, not because Linux got better. Unless you mean for gaming. That was Valve's exit strategy from Windows.

If that is truly what you think, then you clearly haven't used a Linux desktop distro since then because that absolutely incorrect.
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