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New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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Post C++11 you can just do (like this:)), no extra space needed before the last parenthesis.

But then it looks like I'm using a double smiley[0] which I do actually use on occasion [0] :))

You could use a bracket in the smiley (like this :]) as is sometimes used when nesting parentheticals.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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I still call voodoo on this. I use an iPhone, iPad, Mac to comment here—all of them autocorrect to em dashes at one point or another. Same goes for ellipsis.

Firefox Mac - did this get autocorrected to an em dash ... ?

Looks like no. It's probably Safari that "knows better".

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#573

This feels like an existential threat to HN, and to the general concept of anonymous online discourse. Trust in the platform is foundational, and without it the whole thing falls down. Requiring proof of identity is the only solution I can think of, despite how unappealing it is. And even then, you'll still have people handing their account over to an LLM. I really struggle to imagine a way around it. It could be tha…

> And even then, you'll still have people handing their account over to an LLM.

Exactly. So what's proof of identity good for?

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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I'm still salty that I can't use em-dashes anymore for fear of my writing being flagged as AI generated. Been using them for years—it's just `alt+shift+-` on a Mac keyboard and I find them more legible in many fonts compared to the simple dash on the typical numpad. It's so sad to me that good typographical conventions have been co-opted by the zeitgeist of LLMs.

My thoughts exactly. As somebody who has always loved to use em-dashes and bulleted lists to organize my thoughts, this is heartbreaking. It's like being named Michael Bolton and watching a singer rise in fame named Michael Bolton. Why should I change my style?

> Why should I change my style?

Office Space jokes aside, you shouldn't. I think it's very important to be yourself and refuse to let people pressure you into changing for no good reason. I am not an em dash user myself, as it's a pain to generate when there's no key on the keyboard for it. But if I were, you best believe I wouldn't change my style one bit. People can accuse me of being an LLM if they wish, but that's no skin off my back.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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I'm still salty that I can't use em-dashes anymore for fear of my writing being flagged as AI generated. Been using them for years—it's just `alt+shift+-` on a Mac keyboard and I find them more legible in many fonts compared to the simple dash on the typical numpad. It's so sad to me that good typographical conventions have been co-opted by the zeitgeist of LLMs.

I continue to write like I always have done, and if people think it's AI I really couldn't care less.

Based.

(I know it's a bit low effort, but if ever something called for "based" it's this.)

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#576

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I started making deliberate grammar and spelling mistakes in professional context. Not like I have a perfect writing anyway, but at least I could prove that it was self-written, not an auto-generated slop. (Could be self-written slop though :) This applies not only work-stuff itself also to the job-applications/cv/resume and cover-letters.

unrelated but I've never understood how to put a smiley at the end of parenthetical sentences (which comes up surprisingly often for me since I use smileys a lot and also like using parentheses). Just the smiley as an end parentheses (like this :) feels off but adding another parentheses (like this :) ) makes it look like it should be nested which causes problems since I also tend to nest parenthetical sentences (lik…

allow me to introduce my friend – turned smiley here he is: ´◡` (quite useful for brackets ´◡`)

you can find him on windows by pressing Win + ; not as fast as typing, but quite faster then typing and then wondering if thats too much brackets or too little

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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Just do it anyway—I always have, and always will. Well, I haven't always —just for maybe 20 years.

Someone should ban this bot, I've seen it before and it's always pretending to run this place

It doesn't look like a bot. created: August 18, 2007 karma: 36696

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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I'm still salty that I can't use em-dashes anymore for fear of my writing being flagged as AI generated. Been using them for years—it's just `alt+shift+-` on a Mac keyboard and I find them more legible in many fonts compared to the simple dash on the typical numpad. It's so sad to me that good typographical conventions have been co-opted by the zeitgeist of LLMs.

I switched to semicolons... They look similar enough in use to string things together. I'm sure AI is coming for those too though, and that will be a grim day because those are my last stand.

I did as well; funny though, I see uptick in its usage along the board.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#579

This feels like an existential threat to HN, and to the general concept of anonymous online discourse. Trust in the platform is foundational, and without it the whole thing falls down. Requiring proof of identity is the only solution I can think of, despite how unappealing it is. And even then, you'll still have people handing their account over to an LLM. I really struggle to imagine a way around it. It could be tha…

Prevent pasting comments. Implement a naive check for time spent typing the comment, and shadowban posts that don't pass the criteria. Add a 1 minute wait and captcha for posting.

That'd drastically reduce the amount of low effort posts, both human-written and generated.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#580

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I started making deliberate grammar and spelling mistakes in professional context. Not like I have a perfect writing anyway, but at least I could prove that it was self-written, not an auto-generated slop. (Could be self-written slop though :) This applies not only work-stuff itself also to the job-applications/cv/resume and cover-letters.

unrelated but I've never understood how to put a smiley at the end of parenthetical sentences (which comes up surprisingly often for me since I use smileys a lot and also like using parentheses). Just the smiley as an end parentheses (like this :) feels off but adding another parentheses (like this :) ) makes it look like it should be nested which causes problems since I also tend to nest parenthetical sentences (lik…

I’ve always been bothered by instances of your first example, and I mostly use “XD” instead of “:)” to sidestep the issue in my own writing.
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