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New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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Post by meindnoch »

int_19h wrote: post #411
debatem1 wrote: post #245

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Every time I see one of these stories I wonder how many tools I would have to remove from my garage to make it impossible to build a primitive gun in there. With enough ingenuity I'm really not sure there would be anything left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Luty#Firearms_design > one particular design, outlined in his book Expedient Homemade Firearms, is the best known. This design makes extensive use of easily procured materials such as folded sheet metal, bar stock, washers, and hex screws. It is a simple blowback-operated sub-machine gun and entirely made from craft-produced components, including the magazine and pistol grip. The…

See it in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YE9J7qcj0c

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Post by scratchyone »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #436
scratchyone wrote: post #37

Second half of this article has signs of AI slop, as confirmed by Pangram: https://i.imgur.com/gGIAApA.png Hard to trust an article like this when the legal analysis and suggestions are being outsourced to an LLM.

> Second half of this article has signs of AI slop, as confirmed by Pangram The corporation you're citing named "Pangram" cannot confirm anything of the sort. They only make claims , like the ones in your screenshot. Indeed, this very "citation" of the AI-generated output of Pangram Inc.'s product is a good example of outsourcing work to an LLM without verifying it.

Pangram has extremely high accuracy. While there's no way to prove AI use, it's a very good proxy for that metric. It's obvious to my eyes that the article is written with AI, I supplied Pangram as a citation to convince people such as yourself who didn't notice the AI usage when reading the article.

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Post by hrimfaxi »

int_19h wrote: post #412
pjbk wrote: post #128

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People print guns and gun parts. More than you think. Now even more since metal printing is starting to become affordable. I print grip and grip attachments for my 9mms and my AR15, trigger guards, barrel clamps, etc. I also find it stupid since, as the article suggests, what kind of algorithm can you implement to do smart detection of something that could be potentially dangerous? Will it also detect negative space?…

FCUs are not tracked in US (aside from full auto trigger groups, which however are classified as "machineguns" in their own right). Receivers are tracked.

That depends entirely on the gun. Sig "receivers" are just frames and the FCU is the controlled element. At least in the p320.

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Post by pegasus »

rayiner wrote: post #563
anthk wrote: post #543

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Mob with guns would be useless against the Iranian Guards which are pretty much elite commandos.

Goat herders with guns in Afghanistan kicked the U.S. army out of their country.

But could they do the same to goat herders with bigger guns, drones, bombs, etc?

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Post by laylower »

robflynn wrote: post #213

My main concern is, how long is it before you can't print a replacement part for something you bought because it looks too similar to an OEM part and the manufacturer doesn't think you should be able to do that so they throw a little money to the right politician.

This is part of the wider problem and heavily relates to the right to repair

Cory talked about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39jsstmmUUs

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Post by crote »

bluescrn wrote: post #446
nemomarx wrote: post #256

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I guess it was a predictable outreach from the Patriot act - the new justification is flying drones "over a mission" from the border people, and they claim a lot of territory for their missions, right?

More likely the videos of FPV drones from Ukraine showing that an inexpensive quadcopter can be a very effective weapon of war. And that radio jamming no longer neutralizes that threat.

That could be used to justify banning drones in general, or banning all drones which aren't radio controlled (not that those are being used domestically). And "it can be used for war" is a bit silly in a country where you can buy guns at the grocery store. Not to mention that cars can be very effective weapons as well, and those haven't been banned yet.

The far more likely explanation is that they just don't want people filming them. They can't legally stop someone with a cellphone from filming them, but that hasn't stopped them from using up-to-lethal force against observers. On the other hand, you can't exactly beat a flying drone into submission, so the obvious move is to observe using drones instead.

Luckily for ICE the FAA already has the mechanics in place to criminalize flying drones in certain places, so with their magic "no drones anywhere we operate" NOTAM they can now punish observers with a year of jail time.

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Post by Ray20 »

x______________ wrote: post #481
WalterBright wrote: post #451

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Forcing people to the polling place doesn't sound like a free society. Nor does it auger for any positive votes - people forced into something don't behave well. You'll get perverse voting.

Living in a civilized society with other people should have its social responsibilities, amongst others.

Yes, and most of this measures result in decisions being made by the most irresponsible people.

Prisoners voting is madness. They are in too dependent a position to believe that their vote will reflect their votes.

On the contrary, voting should be banned not only for prisoners but also for people working for the government in any capacity. People who live off taxpayers should not be able to decide how to spend their taxes.

Registration procedures should be more complex and strict, not simpler. If someone is irresponsible, disorganized, or illiterate enough to fail to fill the form on time, then why should we consider their vote meaningful? If someone believes they have more important things to do than vote, why force them to vote?

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Post by tosti »

aaronmdjones wrote: post #258
crazygringo wrote: post #173

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But doesn't Ctrl+Alt+Del bring up the screen to switch users or sign out? "Task Manager" is one item in the list of options you get, but it's not the main one or anything, in fact it's the last: https://www.lifewire.com/thmb/hzx6btMYEqZJfSAL3WVxXuW3-jw=/1...

The author may just be showing their age a bit. That's what Ctrl+Alt+Del does on modern versions of Windows, but from Windows 95 to Windows XP (inclusive) it directly launched the Task Manager.

Ctrl+Alt+Del on an IBM PC or a compatible clone reboots the machine no questions asked. There's a dedicated reset button in case that fails.

Doing anything other than a reboot started with protected mode MS-Windows 3.1 IIRC (then marketed as "386 enhanced mode").

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Post by bmelton »

whynotmaybe wrote: post #564
bmelton wrote: post #537

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This _cannot_ be true I'm new to 3D printing, so grains of salt abound, but since I started in on the hobby this Christmas, I've purchased four 3D printers. 3 budget-but-highly-regarded kings to start, but they all gave me tons of trouble. The Elegoo Centauri Carbon I got for Christmas that sparked this mess is a budget knockoff of the Bambu X1C, but in the first 30 days of ownership, I experienced 2 hardware failure…

You are a "new" type of user for the 3d printing world. In the last decade, most 3d printer users were hobbyists and liked to know the internals of the machine they were using. That's why there are so many useless models of random gadgets on thingiverse. People didn't care about the output, more about the process. With the arrival of bambu and the last Creality, the market has shifted to a plug and print model where…

Sorry for the old-heads, but just because I'm new doesn't mean I don't appreciate the craft, or the pains endured by many others before me that enabled this painless experience.

But if nobody was fixing the problems everybody was experiencing except Bambu, then frankly, good for Bambu.

Boo to the gate-keepers. Vorons still exist and likely always will for those that want to dork around with printers, but for the rest of us, printers that work empower the field. In the past 5 weeks, I've started to learn and understand how 3D printers work, I've started to do some simple 3D modeling, and I've begun making models with OpenSCAD, which wasn't a thing that I knew existed before. Those parts are currently on Github.

I've organized a billion things. I've modeled a corner for my weird desk's keyboard tray so that it stops cutting my knees when I swivel my chair too quickly. I've delighted my wife by printing some conveniences. I have (admittedly infinitesimally) advanced the availability of 3D models in a way that I simply would not yet have if I were still messing around procuring the Voron parts list. Quality tooling advances the craft as it makes it more accessible.

But the main thing is that it doesn't actually help anybody for 3D printing to be more difficult, nor does wanting Bambu to be bad make them not good. They are good, and they're leaps and bounds better than most of the products in the field.

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Post by galangalalgol »

heavyset_go wrote: post #354
hyperbovine wrote: post #192

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> Sadly, instead of having better laws we get fallacy rhetoric by people who probably have never touched, much less fired a gun in their lives. Why is this the litmus test for being qualified to write gun legislation? Do we also expect our lawmakers to have tried heroin or downloaded child porn so that they can regulate those activities?

> Do we also expect our lawmakers to have tried heroin or downloaded child porn so that they can regulate those activities? It would be nice if they delegated to experts, instead of think tanks or populism, when it came to dealing with these. Both are examples of rampant regulatory failure.

Knowing the difference between a think tank and experts might be hard without some rudimentary knowledge to spot nonsense? I don't know, actually asking. It seems to me that the primary skill we need in our leaders is that of spotting experts talking within their field and actually listen to them while ignoring others. The primary trait, which is even more important, is character so that they act on what they here in our best interests instead of their own.
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