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Post by taneq »

xattt wrote: post #174
athenot wrote: post #143

This is a fun app. One way I deal with people talking on speakerphone, is inviting myself into their conversation and making comments as if I were an active participant. That usually earns me a weird look, and then they go off speaker so I can't hear what's been said. Success. Similar with folks watching reels on speaker, I fake a laugh or make comments about the content. It's awkward enough that they usually stop be…

How do you deal with the small possibility that the offending person is unhinged (since they’ve already chosen to throw out societal mores out the window) and could physically hurt you?

Diet, exercise, and physical training, probably?

Re: STFU

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Post by jspash »

nozzlegear wrote: post #124
connorgurney wrote: post #31

I might be in a minority saying this - and particularly so here on HN - but I struggle to understand why you'd be willing to use a tool like this, as OP did, but not to politely ask someone to keep it down?

My wife and I were sitting in the coffee shop/dining area of our grocery store not long ago, eating breakfast before we bought our groceries. There's a gentleman who's usually there on the same weekend days that we are, and he watches videos on his phone very loudly. It was clearly annoying everyone around, but this being Minnesota, nobody was going to bother him about it (instead they just do little glances over the…

You've never met my neighbours! No seriously. Some people are just jerks.

Re: STFU

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Post by butler14 »

aidenn0 wrote: post #499
getdoneist wrote: post #464

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is pure game theory. An aggressive person expects no bad outcomes from his passive victim. If they get a signal that their own outcome may be not that good, even marginally, this very often changes their behaviour. That's why the advice to act submissively presented as "avoiding confrontation" is often the wrong advice. You are not seeking confrontation, but you should signal that you are ready for confrontation.…

Anectodal evidence, but 3 out of 4 bullies left me alone after I punched them back just a single time. The 4th got backup for the next time he jumped me, so it can backfire.

How did you manage to acquire /four/ bullies?

Re: STFU

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Post by kstrauser »

amelius wrote: post #539
kstrauser wrote: post #533

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Yeah. I was reassuring the parent of my post that they’re right, it’s legal to own an SDR. You can still get in extra trouble for breaking the law with it, but it’s perfect fine to have and use one otherwise.

Sure, but my original question was what happens if two people are caught with an SDR unit, and authorities can't prove who (of the two people) used their unit to do the jamming.

Not a lawyer. My guess: if they’re together, they’d both be charged, as if they robbed a store as a team. If they’re not, neither would be charged, as each would have a brilliant defense.

Re: STFU

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Post by testing22321 »

jcbe wrote: post #340
NoSalt wrote: post #203

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This is a good way to shanked on the D.C. Metro.

Kind of a funny day to post this (WMATA just released data showing crime rates at a 25-year low)

25 year low is still an order of magnitude higher than a developed country.

Re: STFU

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Post by eddyg »

vondur wrote: post #47
tra3 wrote: post #28

In the style of cheap tiktoks: "There are two types of people...". My wife loves listening to her phone on max volume, but it sounds so bad compared to half decent speakers. Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. You're by yourself, in nature. If you want to listen to music wear headphones!! Also why are people using speaker phones in public places at max volume. The speaker i…

> Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. Boy, that one really gets to me when I'm on the trail. Both hikers and mountain bikers are guilty of that. Also, the people with their AirPods in oblivious to anything going on around them...

At least AirPods have an excellent transparency mode

Re: STFU

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Post by railsgirls112 »

Spooky23 wrote: post #487
echelon_musk wrote: post #423

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> They had stories that were absolutely insane. Don't leave us hanging.

lol, Sure! Here’s one that was one of the crazier ones that I remember from my dad. There were a bunch of people complaining about smells coming from an apartment. The dude was a little out there and some sort of religious practitioner. The workers were afraid of the guy, but he hadn’t really done anything except be weird and creepy. So he ended up going up with a few folks to check it out. The dude was capturing (ma…

I love this, thank you for sharing. I imagine that position gives you an exposure to humanity that many can't handle with that kind of grace and constitution. We surely need more people like him.

Re: STFU

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Post by mancerayder »

Unfortunately this is the most dangerous when it is most needed - on the New York City subway, especially when the train has a cell signal, when jackasses listen to reels of IG and TikTok and scroll at high volume.

It's an incredibly rude world we live in - this behavior two decades ago would have led to a fight. Now everyone is scared to tell anyone anything, since punching or stabbing are risks. Also, I believe the new generation is hyper tolerant of such things compared to us olds.

Re: STFU

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Post by mancerayder »

SoftTalker wrote: post #282
anigbrowl wrote: post #236

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It stresses me out and distracts me from what I'm doing. You have no right to do that and I will ruin your day if you try.

As long as I'm within the restrictions of any ordinance regarding noise level/place/time of day, I have no obligation to be silent in public places. You don't have a right to freedom from annoyances, within reason.

That's why the person wrote the app in the link of this thread. So that when you annoy us, we'll echo it back in your face at full volume. And you have no right to complain since you just approved not being free from us doing this to you.

Re: STFU

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Post by niemandhier »

getdoneist wrote: post #464
Spooky23 wrote: post #302

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It’s a two-way street. I used to have to deal with unhinged people on the regular and one of the techniques that keep the peace and stay safe is to present an edge that gives the vibe that you may be more unhinged. My dad used to run housing projects, and my uncle was an assistant principal at one of the most violent schools in New York City. They were like Jedi masters of presence. They had stories that were absolut…

It is pure game theory. An aggressive person expects no bad outcomes from his passive victim. If they get a signal that their own outcome may be not that good, even marginally, this very often changes their behaviour. That's why the advice to act submissively presented as "avoiding confrontation" is often the wrong advice. You are not seeking confrontation, but you should signal that you are ready for confrontation.…

This is dangerous advice.

You need to read the situation very carefully:

Antisocial behavior is often an attempt to gain status in the subjects in-group. Breaking rules in a way conveys power.

Violence against members of the out-group is an even more effective way to display dominance and hence gain status.

Unless you play a repeated game with the other person there is little to gain for you by initiating conflict.

Even if you assume you have something to gain, always consider the other person might have little to lose and ( my opinion) never display aggression you are not willing to back up.

Sources: 1. Rory Miller: ”Meditations on Violence”

2. Life experiences, that match 1’s observations

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