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2026 will be my year of the Linux desktop

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Re: 2026 will be my year of the Linux desktop

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Post by megous »

theragra wrote: post #558
rsync wrote: post #547

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"No CLI required to install software" This seems very odd ... a quick one-liner install process is by far the simplest and most efficient way to install a piece of software ... What other fragility and unnecessary complexity comes along with graphical installation tools ? Is this a pain point for non-technical users you might prepare this system for ? Who do you have in mind when you specify this ?

It is not simpler, if you don't know the exact magic line that does it for the specific application. GUI tools allow for easy and convenient search.

Easy and convenient is highly subjective and context dependent. Thankfully GUI tools exist for people who find that convenient.

Re: 2026 will be my year of the Linux desktop

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Post by kgwxd »

torginus wrote: post #514
SamDc73 wrote: post #170

> then just shat all over them with start menus made with React Native, control-alt-delete menus that are actually just webviews, and forcing Copilot down everyone's throats Thank god I've been using Linux long enough to not experience any of that. At my job in a large non-tech company, almost everyone uses Windows (except for the dev team) purely because of Microsoft Office. As long as that thing exists, they can do…

Ironically, MS Office is one of the best working Microsoft software on Linux, through Office 365. It works so well, that on my Windows work computer, I worked for months editing Word docs and Excel sheets every now and then, without realizing I didn't have Ms Office installed.

The funny thing is, MS office apps looks less out-of-place on Linux because most apps are already different. On Windows 11, it looks like the forgotten step-child of Windows 8.

Re: 2026 will be my year of the Linux desktop

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Post by the__alchemist »

rsync wrote: post #547
the__alchemist wrote: post #527

Wishlist: - No sudo, or at least no conflict between "Sudo is dangerous and can break your system" / "You need sudo to do routine things" - Executable compatibility across distro versions and distros - No CLI required to install software - Lag-free pen experience - Good touch support - Less fragile. I shouldn't have to worry about the PC booting up into a no-GUI terminal after I installed something, or edited a file.…

"No CLI required to install software" This seems very odd ... a quick one-liner install process is by far the simplest and most efficient way to install a piece of software ... What other fragility and unnecessary complexity comes along with graphical installation tools ? Is this a pain point for non-technical users you might prepare this system for ? Who do you have in mind when you specify this ?

Perhaps this exercise will help. You are new to a given piece of software.

  A: There is a UI with 2 buttons. How many degrees of freedom is that?
  B: There is a text prompt, which accepts any number of unicode characters. How many degrees is that?

Re: 2026 will be my year of the Linux desktop

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Post by theandrewbailey »

sylens wrote: post #560
theandrewbailey wrote: post #542

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've run BTRFS on my server (and external drive backups) for over 10 years without issues. I would use BTRFS on my main rig, but Steam (or perhaps Proton in particular) doesn't like it, so Ext4 there.

I’m running BTRFS now on a Cachy install and Steam/Proton seems fine - when did you last try?

About a year ago. Games simply refused to run, and some cursory searching suggested it was because my filesystems were BTRFS and advised using EXT4 instead. That worked for me.

Re: 2026 will be my year of the Linux desktop

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Post by kgwxd »

teleforce wrote: post #194

Every year starting back around the year 2000, every year until now there's always at least an article from Slashdot and then HN on the year of the Linux desktop from believers and non-believers alike [1],[2]. [1] Laugh all you want. There will be a year of the Linux desktop (2023): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33213663 [2] Why there should never be a "year of the Linux desktop" (2009): https://news.ycombinat…

The phrase itself has been a well established joke since I can remember.

Re: 2026 will be my year of the Linux desktop

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Post by QuiEgo »

I’ve reached the point where I just use a Mac for most computer stuff and a console for gaming. Maybe one day I’ll set up a Linux gaming box but after spending all day at work trying to wrangle Linux boxes, that sounds a bit too much like my job to be relaxing.

Re: 2026 will be my year of the Linux desktop

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

dash2 wrote: post #355
the_hoser wrote: post #236

For those of us that have been using Linux for a long time (since 1999, here), the improvements have been incremental, and hard to spot over time. But sometimes I encounter something and it just blows my mind how good desktop Linux has become. I just bought a laptop that came with Fedora installed. This isn't anything new, but what really blew me away is that everything... just worked. No tinkering. No alternative mo…

I left desktop Linux in 2010 because everything did not just work. Looking at the responses to your comment, it seems that basic stuff like wifi still doesn't always just work. If it's been true since 2010, I think the problem is systematic, and won't go away with "just one more year".

> it seems that basic stuff like wifi still doesn't always just work

This is why I don't use Windows. Early last year I paid for a copy of "Windows 10", and it didn't support most of the hardware in my laptop. Even plugging in a mouse I had to use keyboard shortcuts to let it load a "driver", and after that it still didn't support the scroll wheel. Wifi didn't work at all, and wired network was painfully slow. It did at least support FHD resolution in 24-bit colour but very slowly.

My audio interface was completely unsupported, my MIDI interfaces were completely unsupported. Eventually I gave up attempting to run it, wiped the laptop again, reinstalled Ubuntu, and went for Bitwig instead of Ableton, and I've had no problems since.

Maybe one day we'll see the year of Windows on the desktop, but this isn't it yet.

Re: 2026 will be my year of the Linux desktop

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Post by kwanbix »

ergonaught wrote: post #282

On my Windows machines, every time I have to click my Bluetooth icon, which is about a dozen times every day, the full second pause before it presents me with a menu makes me wish I didn't need Windows on two of my systems. It's mindbogglingly stupid that a UI element has a one second delay to present a menu on...any hardware, much less "2025" hardware. But that's the kind of product they're shipping, because that's…

Why do you touch your bluetooth icon so many times?

Re: 2026 will be my year of the Linux desktop

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Post by Alupis »

hexbin010 wrote: post #469

So I just tried KDE with Fedora 43 on a 4 year old Intel Dell laptop (I've used Linux pretty extensively for 15+ years). It's hilariously bad : - I managed to make a process crash just clicking around the Settings app - Sleep doesn't work (spins up the fans, then turns them down, then turns off off displays etc but I then the fan are spinning, so something is running). Looking at the menu, supposedly Firefox is 'bloc…

Can you run MacOS on your 4 year old Intel Dell laptop?

I've been running Fedora full-time for years and have not experienced any of the issues you have listed here. Some of your issues sound like hardware to me?

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