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US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is classified

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Re: US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is classified

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Control over oil and gas keeps monetary values high.

Green energy is much harder to control because you can’t force the market into artificial scarcity and re-inflate the value of gas to drive the economy back up (and keep rich people rich).

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Do you honestly think federal employees are more corrupt than this administration?

Yes.

Which one had a greater 2025 net worth increase than the president? Which one pardoned people who donated to his campaign or ballroom? Which one is subject to legal reprisal for corruption?

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Drones are regularly intercepted in the Ukraine war. Patriot batteries have intercepted kinzhals.

Kinzhal is ballistic missile flying on high altitude trajectory, so it is easily visible and somehow interceptable. Drones and cruise missiles often fly very low, which makes them much harder to detect and intercept.

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Sweden is worried about a hostile neighbor. They're freaked out enough that they joined NATO after generations of non-alignment. Who are we afraid of? If ICBMs are incoming to the Continental United States the world is ending. Regardless of whether we prevent wind farms in any of the 12,000+ miles of coastline. Are we expecting missiles to come from the Gulf of Mexico? People always bend over backwards to justify thi…

> If ICBMs are incoming to the Continental United States the world is ending. its up to discussion. US has many measures which combined could give them a chance to survive nuclear war, namely: preemptive strike by tridents on enemy's silos( https://thebulletin.org/2017/03/how-us-nuclear-force-moderni... ) and anti missile defense. > Are we expecting missiles to come from the Gulf of Mexico? there is a possibility of…

Nuclear war isn't winnable. It's stupid and dangerous to pretend otherwise.

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> If ICBMs are incoming to the Continental United States the world is ending. its up to discussion. US has many measures which combined could give them a chance to survive nuclear war, namely: preemptive strike by tridents on enemy's silos( https://thebulletin.org/2017/03/how-us-nuclear-force-moderni... ) and anti missile defense. > Are we expecting missiles to come from the Gulf of Mexico? there is a possibility of…

Nuclear war isn't winnable. It's stupid and dangerous to pretend otherwise.

humans already gave nuclear buttons to politicians and dictators with questionable intelligence, so it doesn't matter what you are pretending to be exactly.

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Yup. And Trump very specifically has had a very irrational obsession and hatred for windmills for years now.

He has said that wind turbines cause cancer. He also said they make noise that bothers people and drives whales insane. He has also said that they kill birds, as if their spinning draws birds into the blades. But most of all, he thinks they're ugly.

There's actually some truth to the bird thing. Some of the first wind turbines in the 1980s had very short blades, 5-10 feet, and would spin at ~50rpm, sort of like a spinning baseball bat, ready to strike birds out of the air. Combined with not being very high off the ground, maybe 40 feet, birds would take off from the ground directly into the very fast spinning blades. Modern wind turbines neither look nor act like these early turbines, but that's where the data comes from. They only just retired those fast spinning, low to the ground turbines in like ~2017. Something like 80-95% of all bird strikes came from ~35 essentially prototype wind turbines, and virtually none come from modern, huge slow spinning turbines.

Re: US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is classified

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Under other circumstances I might be inclined to give the benefit of the doubt. But when's the last time we saw any action from this admin that wasn't clearly self-dealing or ideologically motivated instead of science-based?

Yup. And Trump very specifically has had a very irrational obsession and hatred for windmills for years now.

Ideallism, delusion and a hatred of windmills. Donald Trump is starting to sound a lot like Don Quixote.

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Years ago, this very subject was an interview question at a national lab (at an undergrad level). The question was roughly: > the ends of windmill blades look a lot like a jet on radar. If you were assigned to this project, what would your approach be to avoiding false positives? This was in 2011/2012. I find it difficult to believe the problem is not solved.

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Re: US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is classified

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I looked into this a little because I was curious. I guess the ostensible "national security" rationale (which clearly is not the only reason!) for this is that turbines severely degrade the utility of radar surveillance along the coastlines. This is particularly relevant for low-altitude incursions and drones. Now, other large governments (UK) have resolved this in several ways, including the deployment of additiona…

That you could come up with one reasonable-sounding explanation while they offered nothing makes me wonder if the administration is too lazy, or too inept.

Anyone can land upon a good strategy -- especially because these strategies get honed by evolutionary processes. For them, this is a good strategy. Enough people, especially their supporters, have been trained to not be suspicious when they are non-specific. From my armchair, I don't see any downside to being non-specific in their current environment. Yet the extra delay gained allows so many advantages, if you're the type to use them.
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