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Post by bamboozled »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #300
emp17344 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m extremely skeptical because of all those articles claiming OpenAI was freaking out about Gemini - now it turns out they just casually had a better model ready to go? I don’t buy it.

I (and others) have a strong suspicion that they can modulate models intelligence in almost real time by adjusting quantization and thinking time. It seems if anyone wants, they can really gas a model up in the moment and back it off after the hype wave.

Yeah I've noticed with Claude, around the time of the Opus 4.5 release, at least for a few days, Sonnet 4.5 was just dumb, but it seems temporary. I feel that redirected resources to Opus.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by stopachka »

For those curious about the question: "how well does GPT 5.2 build Counter Strike?"

We tried the same prompts we asked previous models today, and found out [1].

The TL:DR: Claude is still better on the frontend, but 5.2 is comparable to Gemini 3 Pro on the backend. At the very least 5.2 did better on just about every prompt compared to 5.1 Codex Max.

The two surprises with the GPT models when it comes to coding: 1. They often use REPLs rather than read docs 2. In this instance 5.2 was more sheepish about running CLI commands. It would instead ask me to run the commands.

Since this isn't a codex fine-tuned model, I'm definitely excited to see what that looks like.

[1] The full video and some details in the tweet here: https://x.com/instant_db/status/1999278134504620363

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by clhodapp »

varispeed wrote: post #366
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #295

I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

Get Gemini answer and tell ChatGPT this is what my friend said. Then put ChatGPT answer to Claude and so on. It's a cheat code.

A cheat code to what?

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by blitz_skull »

Again I just tap the sign.

All of your benchmarks mean nothing to me until you include Claude Sonnet on them.

In my experience, GPT hasn’t been able to compete with Claude in years for the daily “economically valuable” tasks I work on.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by enraged_camel »

AstroBen wrote: post #515
agentifysh wrote: post #436

Looks like they've begun censoring posts at r/Codex and not allowing complaint threads so here is my honest take: - It is faster which is appreciated but not as fast as Opus 4.5 - I see no changes, very little noticeable improvements over 5.1 - I do not see any value in exchange for +40% in token costs All in all I can't help but feel that OpenAI is facing an existential crisis. Gemini 3 even when its used from AI St…

Did you notice much improvement going from Gemini 2.5 to 3? I didn't I just think they're all struggling to provide real world improvements

Gemini 3 was a massive improvement over 2.5, yes.

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Post by Daz912 »

tenpoundhammer wrote: post #295

I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

No desktop app, not using it

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by alechewitt »

simonw wrote: post #125

Wow, there's a lot going on with this pelican riding a bicycle: https://gist.github.com/simonw/c31d7afc95fe6b40506a9562b5e83...

Nice work on these benchmarks Simon. I’ve followed your blog closely since your great talk at the AI Engineers World Fair, and I want to say thank you for all the high quality content you share for free. It’s become my primary source for keeping up to date.

I’ve been working on a few benchmarks to test how well LLMs can recreate interfaces from screenshots. (https://github.com/alechewitt/llm-ui-challenge). From my basic tests, it seems GPT-5.2 is slightly better at these UI recreations. For example, in the MS Word replica, it implemented the undo/redo buttons as well as the bold/italic formatting that GPT-5.1 handled, and it generally seemed a bit closer to the original screenshot (https://alechewitt.github.io/llm-ui-challenge/outputs/micros...).

In the VS Code test, it also added the tabs that weren’t visible in the screenshot! (https://alechewitt.github.io/llm-ui-challenge/outputs/vs_cod...).

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Post by jumploops »

FergusArgyll wrote: post #292
jumploops wrote: post #117

> “a new knowledge cutoff of August 2025” This (and the price increase) points to a new pretrained model under-the-hood. GPT-5.1, in contrast, was allegedly using the same pretraining as GPT-4o.

A new pretrain would definitely get more than a .1 version bump & would get a whole lot more hype I'd think. They're expensive to do!

It’s possible they’re using some new architecture to get more up-to-date data, but I think that’d be even more of a headline.

My hunch is that this is the same 5.1 post-training on a new pretrained base.

Likely rushed out the door faster than they initially expected/planned.

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tenpoundhammer wrote: post #295

I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

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