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India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

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Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

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Can I offer you a similar, and probably more palatable, example: https://united24media.com/latest-news/russia-starts-issuing-...

HN truncated your link, so All I could see is https://united2… and thought you were linking to something like https://youtu.be/pl0WGFsY-6g Which is still grown men abducting people in broad daylight, just not in Ukraine.

Ah- the headline is "Russia Starts Issuing Draft Notices at Airports to New Citizens and Returning Expats".

Basically the Russian's are conscripting people flying in to airports, both regional and international. With an added nuance of racism against non-Slavs.

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Reports submitted through the new TRAI DND app and Sanchar Sathi are handled identically. Simply installing Sanchar Sathi won’t eliminate spam calls, which was my point.

That's not my understanding. The TRAI DND app, on IOS, generates a pre-formatted SMS which is sent to the operator on the standard number 1909. The Sanchar Sathi app sends it to a DOT entity which then routes it to the operator while updating the govt database of reported spammers and scammers. The options are much extensive than just a spam call/sms. You can report that the individual was impersonating a public offi…

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Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

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Keep digging the hole; it lets people see and realize your agenda. To repeat myself; All that you have posted are totally irrelevant to the topic under discussion. The only possible reason for it is if you have a personal instigatory agenda ... That is exactly what a "troll"/anonymous coward" does. It is the accepted nomenclature in the Interwebs for such behaviour.

Yeah, just repeat a generic, vapid comment that adds nothing; my comments stand unchallenged. I don't think you have an actual personal opinion, you just feel the need to tow a line (you know, due to some personal agenda probably), but don't have the data to back it up. "No, my side is right and yours wrong" isn't a counter-argument, it's just boring.

My comments are quite specific to your attempts at instigatory and provocative misdirections.

None of your comments have anything to do with the topic under discussion i.e. you are just "trolling".

Your own comment here is proof of that - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46120134

Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

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Impartiality factors less when the entire Federal government apparatus is used to investigate some one for more than a decade. Also, by that reasoning should we start believing in the principle "guilty before proven otherwise"? > It does help the discussion here, the comment correctly points out how this literal 1984-esque action plays into the current regime's totalitarian tendencies which go way before the 2002 pog…

> Impartiality factors less when the entire Federal government apparatus is used to investigate some one for more than a decade. Also, by that reasoning should we start believing in the principle "guilty before proven otherwise"?

No, it was a 3 member "Special Investigation Team" and not the "entire federal apparatus" that acquitted him. [0]

"According to R. B. Sreekumar, police officers who followed the rule of law and helped prevent the riots from spreading were punished by the Modi government. They were subjected to disciplinary proceedings and transfers with some having to leave the state. Sreekumar also claims it is common practice to intimidate whistleblowers and otherwise subvert the justice system, and that the state government issued "unconstitutional directives", with officials asking him to kill Muslims involved in rioting or disrupting a Hindu religious event." [1]

> Who decided that those riots were a progrom? That term itself is misleading.

Hundreds of historians and scholars. [2]

> I am not fan of this step but the problems it's designed to tackle are huge in India and it's very much an option unless there are solid alternatives.

There are students jailed from 2020 without a trail for protesting against CAA-NRC with the explicit purpose of a "chilling effect" against dissent. People are constantly jailed for simple memes, "hurting religious sentiments" and other vapid reasons on a daily basis and you think this is an end to the means type of situation?

If I had to wager a guess, you don't live in India, advocating for oppression you don't have to go through.

[0][1][2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Gujarat_violence

Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

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>With more than 5 million downloads since its launch, the app has helped block more than 3.7 million stolen or lost mobile phones

Ah yes, so because someone has stolen MY phone, I should give up all my right to privacy and allow the government to have their claws in my phone.

Logic. What a silly point to make when 'findmyphone' services, which are OPT-IN litterally do the same thing.

Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

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FYI two years ago, the Indian government shut down mobile service in the state of Punjab to catch one person: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35303486

I don't buy their reasoning. With all the mobile tracking tech, I would have thought that it would have been easier to catch the person if they had a working phone on them.

I assume that they weren't attempting to track him. They were trying to prevent the communication between the conspirators so that they can't coordinate his escape or organize an uprising to aid his escape. Suffice to say, the telecom networks and the internet service are fair game to them and they don't think twice about interfering with it for any reason.

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From what I just heard on the Upgrade podcast, Apple only put a splash screen up when you first purchased your phone “encouraging” users in Russia to download the app. It didn’t force you to.

That's true, it opens a splash screen. But if I remember correctly even if you dismiss it it opens a corresponding AppStore section. Which was kinda annoying but that's it. In more recent developments of this story, looks like Russian authorities saw a success of EU's push for alternative stores and now want Apple to allow that in Russia too [1,2]. Sadly, the motivation is twofold: a. let authorities publish their sp…

The same podcast episode - the latest one - said that Apple isn’t selling in Russia right now so the point is moot.

Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

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you're all over this thread saying this, can you link an article or at least explain what you mean?

It is tiresome to repeat every single time the arguments that so many other cyber experts have also mentioned including here on YC. This is quite the common knowledge by now. Kindly use the search box on the bottom of the page.

In the time you've spent writing all these vague comments you could have just cleared up the confusion. I cared enough to read a comment you would write out, i really don't care enough to go research it

Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

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You should maybe read some articles about modern situations where people dodged conscription before assuming what is practical today. The average person who hasn't thought about it for a week is certainly in trouble but..

Why is the solution to avoiding conscription being able to hide rather than making the conscription not happen in the first place?

Governments in a position to conscript their citizens usually aren’t taking a lot of feedback on the issue.

Yes, fight in advance to prevent such a situation, but don’t assume you will win. It’s good to have a backup plan.

Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

#580

Sounds so authoritarian. Luckily, in the UK you only have to scan your face and ID to access cat photos.

Are you talking about downloading reddit, which is infested with the weirdest pornography that exists ? While I am very much against facial scanning etc, it is quite clear that something needs to be done about the access of porn to kids. It is a drug like any other that we do not allow kids to consume.

So what is your plan on dealing with wikipedia? I accessed porn in 2011 when I was 11. I played Postal 2 when I was 10. But no English skills at that age means not much came out of that game at that time except cat silencers.

How many kids these days play 18+ rated games?

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