Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by baobun » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 8:18 AM UTC

yrro wrote: post #347

dandanua wrote: post #337

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Overthrown by whom? Aliens? Power supports power, there is no way out of this black hole.

The neat thing about the US is that governments are overthrown regularly by automatic operation of law: 12pm on the 20th of January 2028, in the case of the 47th president. I'm sure you know this but I feel everyone needs to remind themselves of this immutable fact regularly until then.

He seems set on causing enough turmoil that elections would be postponed due to war, civil or otherwise.

I bet he got the idea from looking at Zelensky in Ukraine.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by scineram » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 8:54 AM UTC

nickthegreek wrote: post #434

SnuffBox wrote: post #429

I don't see the problem. It was an app specifically developed to help people evade American law and attack people who work for the government, how is it a shock that they took it down?

Apple maps tells you when you are near a cop on the highway in order to evade the law.

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by scineram » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 8:55 AM UTC

bigyabai wrote: post #452

Cabal wrote: post #447

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Same. This app was specifically used to incite violence against law enforcement.

You need to be careful, the word "incite" does not mean what you think it does here. Maybe the app enabled violence against law enforcement - but Waymo does that too by telling you where traffic cops are. Or Google Maps and Yellow Pages for documenting the location of police stations. Undercover officers, ICE or otherwise, aren't given any special exemptions to the law here.

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by scineram » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 8:56 AM UTC

dandanua wrote: post #512

AlexandrB wrote: post #455

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Not just power, but ~50% of the voting public. An "overthrow" would be highly undemocratic and it's very curious to hear the same people that claim Trump is literally Hitler talk about "overthrowing" their (democratically elected) political enemies and then "punishing collaborators". Is there no sense of self-awareness at all?

The majority, of course, can decide to get rid of democracy and transform the country into a fascists dictatorship. But in this case they can't expect democrats to treat them by their democratic rules. This is not how it works, sorry. Your self-awarness is broken, I'm afraid.

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by scineram » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 8:57 AM UTC

duxup wrote: post #52

“It’s ok when our guy does it!” -SCOTUS majority, American GOP.

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by scineram » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 9:06 AM UTC

magicalist wrote: post #166

imoverclocked wrote: post #159

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So you're suggesting that prior restraint on constitutionally protected speech is justified because Pam Bondi, mouthpiece for the president, asserts that publishing publicly observable information about federal officers is designed to put them at risk from waves hands , and not that the risk, if there actually was one, should be dealt with from whatever she's waving her hands about? It's always funny when people are…

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by scineram » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 9:10 AM UTC

yieldcrv wrote: post #20

> Authorities said the suspect, Joshua Jahn, searched his phone for tracking apps, including ICEBlock, before opening fire on the facility from a rooftop. Thats weird because you dont need iceblock to know that ICE is at an ICE facility Its for when they’re spotted in neighborhoods dumb rationale, dumb response

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by scineram » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 9:14 AM UTC

sherry-sherry wrote: post #565

simianparrot wrote: post #560

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There's individual cases of unconstitutional behaviour, but ICE itself isn't unconstitutional. It was unconstitutional to effectively lock people in their homes during covid, but it was done anyway.

It’s unconstitutional to raid an entire apartment building and force everyone out as they search for potential “illegals” to take away without due process. We are far beyond a couple an individual cases, it’s become the norm. Stay at home orders for health reasons are constitutional. Also, in countries that had stricter rules far fewer people died. When bringing comparisons to a discussion… check if you’re right, and…

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by scineram » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 9:15 AM UTC

sherry-sherry wrote: post #271

simianparrot wrote: post #262

ICE tracking apps put ICE agents in danger, and the same kind of app for, say, tracking Meta employees or “people who wear Team Blue T-shirts” or any other group would obviously be a danger as well. How on earth do people find this controversial..?

ICE puts people in danger and disregards their due process. When a group is performing unconstitutional activities they should be tracked and stopped where possible.

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Post by scineram » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 9:16 AM UTC

josefresco wrote: post #376

simianparrot wrote: post #262

ICE tracking apps put ICE agents in danger, and the same kind of app for, say, tracking Meta employees or “people who wear Team Blue T-shirts” or any other group would obviously be a danger as well. How on earth do people find this controversial..?

Are masked Meta employees kidnapping people at gunpoint and deporting them to foreign gulags?

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