Have you tried IRC?
Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
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#572not only is there at least a hundred other open source equivalent apps
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#573Our company is thinking of moving to Slack from Teams. In addition we use Salesforce. I have already reached out to senior decision-makers pointing out do we want to be paying for a company's services that resorts to this kind of behaviour, when very credible alternatives exist.
Teams ain't great but I've not really seen any huge argument as to how Slack is measurably better (anymore) and Microsoft wants to squeeze you, but not put you through the Juicero™.
Teams has been awful in terms of getting the notifications to you. Also small things like not being to able to reorder channels is bonkers.
I was going to suggest moving to Slack for our nonprofit, having been unsatisfied with Mattermost a while back. It might be time to reconsider...
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#574Thousands of teen coders now hate Salesforce in advance . This is very shortsighted.
coders aren't the ones choosing salesforce, everyone I know that has worked on writing code for it hates it
Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
#575switch to an open source forum or chat platform and never go proprietary again!
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#576Earlier quoted context omitted.
You would think that making your users hate you is shortsighted, yes. But does it really matter? I urge every user of Hacker News to read Peter Thiel's book, Zero to One. It's the definitive statement on software capitalism. The goal, which Thiel embraces unabashedly, is to use technology to create new and unique monopolies, and once you've created them, extract as much rent as possible from the users. Obviously the…
The book Zero to One has pretty questionable economics. I'm paraphrasing here, it's been a long time, but his thesis is that in a competitive situation life of a company is nasty, brutish and short. And that might be true, but that doesn't mean that life for customers or shareholders or workers is anything like that. Part of why companies have it so hard in harsh competition is that they have to pay workers well in o…
I have no idea what you mean by "questionable economics" here. You seem to be saying that it seems true, but doesn't conform to your values.
Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
#577Thousands of teen coders now hate Salesforce in advance . This is very shortsighted.
Haven't you heard? Sales force doesn't hire programmers anymore. AI is all their CEO needs. ;p. Seriously though, this behavior reminds me of Oracle, and is a great reminder that proprietary software can very quickly become a big liability.
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#578Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…
is slack legally allowed to not let you export your data in order to move somewhere else?
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#579This is so messed up! Hack Club has done and is doing amazing things for teens and young adults who love to build things. Shame on you Salesforce.
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#580Integrating linen[0] might be a good way to backup the messages and provide an off ramp in the meantime