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Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Far right is calling for the government to block access to certain things they don't like aka censorship. Far left is critiquing those who don't virtue signal enough. That isn't censorship at all.

You have them reversed. Are the far right the ones wanting to censor Musk, Trump and everyone else they don't like?

The far right don’t seem to want to censor those two people in particular, no.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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post #571

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You have them reversed. Are the far right the ones wanting to censor Musk, Trump and everyone else they don't like?

The far right don’t seem to want to censor those two people in particular, no.

Precisely. It's the far left who wants people censored.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

#573

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Far right is calling for the government to block access to certain things they don't like aka censorship. Far left is critiquing those who don't virtue signal enough. That isn't censorship at all.

You have them reversed. Are the far right the ones wanting to censor Musk, Trump and everyone else they don't like?

No, the far right are the ones dismantling federal agencies like the EPA, the FDA, USAID etc., sending the army to police states they don't like, firing the person responsible for jobs statistics because they don't like the numbers, slapping 50% tarrifs on countries because they dared to prosecute one of Trump's buddies etc. (just some of the latest examples).

The "far left" (as the far right likes to call anyone who doesn't agree with them) are those who don't like the above and are protesting against it...

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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post #355

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> I stated quite clearly that not every regulation is bad. But it seems that you want to hear that every decision made by the EU is right. I'm sorry, but I'm not a religious person. And I think self-criticism is a great privilege of democratic (not dictatorial) countries, so let's use it. But you still said that you think most of the EU's are bad, so I'm opening the discussion with multiple that I consider to be good…

> But you still said that you think most of the EU's are bad, so I'm opening the discussion with multiple that I consider to be good. I understand your point, but I see no reason to invest time defending the EU's positive aspects. What's the point? > Of course not, but being able to explain the decision, and thus prove that it is wrong, and have humans being able to correct it, is good. It means that stuff like Unite…

> I don't see why "asking for less regulation" concerns you.

Because the "less regulation" is in response to the EU saying you can't have algorithms making life or death decisions if they can't be explained and can't be escalated to a human. People are literally asking for companies to be able to shrug behind "computer says no" with no recourse. We have the UK Post Office scandal for a closer to home example on why this is a terrible idea. "Less regulation" here would be plainly terrible for everyone.

> No one seems to care that Europe's wealth is fragile, based mainly on "old" companies or banks.

Along with migration, it's probably the two most discussed topics. Funnily for it too, everyone says "nobody cares", yet it's literally among the most discussed things.

> Even if the goals of initiatives like GDPR, the AI Act, and the Green Deal are "right", we can't deny that they come with a price. This added cost inevitably makes companies less efficient in Europe. This is a simple consequence. Can we truly afford this?

I get what you're saying, and there's a point at which I would agree; but I also fully consider that allowing companies to let people die and hide behind "The Algorithm" is something so fundamentally wrong, that we cannot (humanely) afford not to have regulations against it.

> In the US and China, new technologies are constantly being created, while in Europe, innovation is stagnating

Because you're comparing massive economies with lots of capital to burn, vs a loose collection of much smaller countries. There is tons of innovation in various European countries, it's just of different types, and doesn't scale nearly to the same extent. And that is a problem (because, as you said, a lot of the economy is reliant on big old players, which isn't necessarily bad, but is lacking in economic diversification).

> As an Italian (living elsewhere in Europe), I find the situation worrying. The demographic decline is dramatic, and pension and healthcare costs are skyrocketing. In Italy, a worker under 40 often earns less than a retiree. With such a sharp demographic decline, retirees have enormous political power

It's the same in France too, and it is indeed worrying. Public budgets are getting increasingly more complicated to balance.

But, allowing companies to deploy AI to make life or death decisions won't change anything around this. Allowing them to harvest personal data without even knowing what they have won't change anything around this either. Allowing gatekeepers to stifle any possible competition (not having DMA/DSA), same thing.

The biggest changes needed are capital investments to help the tons of startups all over Europe scale; and complex policies to help minimise the demographic collapse. Some of it is natural and nothing can be done about it (if a couple doesn't want kids, no amount of aid is going to change their mind), but for others it's a matter of being unable to afford (more) kids.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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By the way: https://www.amazon.com/Streetcar-Named-Desire-Blu-ray/dp/B07... Why is Mastercard processing money for this movie that contains a rape scene?

Because it's a critically acclaimed movie that will draw defenders if it's banned now. If the activists went all in right away they'll lose and they know it

Same deal with GTA and GOT

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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I'm glad the Mastercard-Visa duopoly is finally getting some attention, these companies shouldn't be allowed to exercise the financial control they do. Payment infrastructure is not a free market - you can't just choose to pay via some other processor if they turn you down, they ARE the processors. Therefore, they should be under intense scrutiny when they refuse.

This is the kind of problem that Bitcoin was designed to solve.

It might have been but it is very much not. It's non fungible and transparent resulting in coins, wallets and transactions getting easily traced and blacklisted meaning they can be put into a limbo where nobody is willing to accept them anymore burning there value.

The actual solution would be a fungible and private coin like monero where any of that is impossible by design.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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> If they don’t like processing payments for pornography or adult content (including games) Pornography and adult content is fine—the real issue is that gaming storefronts refuse to moderate their platforms for child pornography and rape material and would rather kill their entire NSFW catalog, all while painting themselves as the victims. > If they don’t like processing payments for pornography or adult content (inc…

I'm pretty sure child pornography is actually illegal in all jurisdictions valve operates in, and they would be charged with real crimes for selling it. Maybe you mean anime characters or something? And is there any law about roleplaying rape? It's common in romance novels and online videos so I don't see how it could be illegal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castillo_v._Texas

Lest we forget.

Sure in the end people rallied to him but it sure must have sucked.

But yeah. Texas.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Steam has famously gone on record that they will provide a DRM removal patch for everything they’re legally allowed to, if/when they go under. If they don’t do this and it’s all just lip service, then it makes a strong argument for ethical piracy at that time.

This is a very persistent rumor. I forget the details but it comes from a customer support email, not some official statement or promise from Gabe, and even that was originally posted on a long gone forum which you can only find quotes of. Even if there was first hand proof of an official statement, I wouldn't expect it to be upheld. Minecraft's website used to have a line from Notch saying he would make it open-sour…

Steam DRM is and has been for decades famously easy to crack. Literally look up steam auto cracker and crack all your games in couple minutes. It is also optional by the way. I much rather have weak but popular steam DRM that makes it less likely devs use much stronger and expensive denuvo DRM.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Isn't Bitcoin impractical for these sorts of transactions (slow, high fees, no privacy, etc)? People always say Bitcoin was designed to solve this sort of thing but whenever I've looked into it it's been fairly impractical for use in most day-to-day transactions.

Bitcoin is so much faster than a credit card transaction that it's not even close. A lightning transaction is near instant, regular bitcoin transfers take in the order of 10 minutes. Credit card transactions take weeks before you get the money, and after that the money can be yoinked back for a multitude of reasons beyond your control as a merchant. The fees are often lower, too. Bitcoiners are for some reason oppose…

"Credit card transactions take weeks before you get the money" Where is this the case?

The only time I have experienced this being true is refunds, they usually take a bit longer to clear.

When I pay for something online or in person the payment is cleared within seconds, and I get a notification from my back that it has went through.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Dumb question: what if Steam only takes cash or crypto payment for these games, and leave them on the market? Cash is loaded from debit card and can be used for buying any games, while crypto apparently always works for everything. Would they still be on the hook?

how do you "take cash" over the Internet?

I would say monero but it is actually superior because there is no serial number tracking.
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