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Post by laughing_man »

sfblah wrote: post #495
nabwodahs wrote: post #124

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Can you cite specific examples of this "bias?"

How about using terms like "pregnant people"? Or the fact that on my local NPR station I can count down from 60 and something like 80% of the time, before I reach 0, they've talked about race or ethnicity at least once.

That's my complaint. Decades ago I enjoyed NPR when I drove to work. It was always left leaning, but at least the programs discussed topics I found interesting or cared about for one reason or another.

These days the only thing they talk about are racial and sexual minorities. I can't express how little this kind of factionalism interests me. I'm not arguing that kind of content shouldn't be produced, but I don't want to pay for it.

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Post by throwaway6612 »

leviathant wrote: post #272
MathMonkeyMan wrote: post #251

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smithkl42 says that NPR is leftward, and you say that it's rightward. Maybe we're all operating from different baselines.

No. If that's what you took from my post, I've miscommunicated. NPR has turned rightward. The entertainment shows are, without a doubt, liberal, on the American political spectrum. There are countless discussions and papers about the role empathy plays in successful entertainment. The editorial content has turned rightward - and the leadership has turned rightward. This has been ongoing for at least two decades, prob…

NPR and especially its editorial content has turned steadily more leftward over the past 9 years (especially since Trump’s election in 2016) and moderately accelerated during COVID/around the talk of the death of one of the hosts. I say this as someone who is left-wing.

I didn’t think there was much debate on this point, it’s rather well documented/easily searchable online. If you genuinely think NPR’s editorial content has turned more right from the left, you are probably operating on a different scale than the general American public. There has also been a lot more scandals with their editorial content and the information accuracy in recent years with the bias being more and more left.

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Post by zitsarethecure »

jumpkick wrote: post #436
tptacek wrote: post #296

This is a giant thread full of people lamenting the demise of public broadcasting so it seems like someone should write the comment that points out that CPB doesn't do PBS programming. They don't develop content. They're a grantmaking organization that manages the distribution of the congressional PBS appropriation. The actual PBS and NPR shows you're familiar with are generally developed and produced privately, and…

> because you almost certainly weren't watching those shows on linear television anyways. I'm just one person, but I definitely am watching the local PBS over an antenna, and so do several members of my family (living in different households). The local broadcast is excellent quality, I get a good signal to it, never any glitches, and I enjoy the local news and other programming too.

I've been running a MythTV backend to record OTA content since the early 2000's and PBS is, by far, my most recorded channel.

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Post by throwaway6612 »

leviathant wrote: post #160
bitshiftfaced wrote: post #140

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> Concerned by the lack of viewpoint diversity, I looked at voter registration for our newsroom. In D.C., where NPR is headquartered and many of us live, I found 87 registered Democrats working in editorial positions and zero Republicans. None. https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-tru...

Yeah yeah. If you want to find the Republicans in public broadcasting, look at the board members. Same thing happened with newspapers and local TV news after Bush 2 loosened media ownership rules. Next you're going to tell me the New York Times has a liberal bias, right? Save it.

Yes, the NYT leans liberal. You can have your own political scale and that’s fine.

But the value of pointing to things and saying they’re right or left or conservative or liberal is a relative valuation measured relative to the general American public. And relative to the general American public the NYT is liberal. Just because you are more liberal than the NYT doesn’t make the NYT conservative.

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Post by throwaway6612 »

spencerflem wrote: post #505
sfblah wrote: post #496

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Is there some written work online that represents your viewpoint on the NYT? I'd genuinely like to read it. I'm a centrist person who can absolutely see that Fox is on the right. But, I can also see that NPR and NYT are on the left. It's hard for me to understand how someone could with any seriousness disagree. But I'm interested in reading more about your viewpoint on this.

“The Left” does not mean to the left of you personally. It’s like how there’s only two types of drivers, insane speeders and insane slowpokes and that’s true no matter how fast you drive :p The “left” in terms of voters is against the genocide in Gaza and for socialist policies and candidates like Mamdani. Plenty of polls and evidence supports this. NYT undid their endorsement policy to specifically Not endorse mamda…

The NYT is not right. WaPo is perhaps a touch more right than the NYT but both are left-leaning and liberal. NPR is centrist but its editorials lean liberal.

You’ve cherry-picked a few stories where the NYT leaned more right, but on the whole the NYT, WaPo, and NPR certainly lean liberal or left of the general American public. The point of labels like right,left, liberal, conservative, etc. are relative valuations to the general American public. Just because the NYT leans less to the left on issues you are more to the left on does not make the NYT right-leaning.

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Post by kjellsbells »

gonzopancho wrote: post #567
duderific wrote: post #504

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Next up in the timeline - when a bad jobs report lands, the person reporting the unwanted data gets fired [0]. Undoubtedly a toadie will be put in their place who will report numbers that make fearless leader look better. We are now well on our way to George Orwell's 1984 dystopia. [0] https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/01/business/trump-job-report-num...

And how will not having semi-reliable data affect Wall St?

Honestly no one knows but two scenarios could play out:

1. The economy goes bad quickly as actoes realize they cant rely on data to make rational economic decisions.

2. Certain actors pay some quasi-governmental organization (say, "Friends of Mar-a-Lago Book Club") to get access to more accurate data, on the agreement that they make the stock market go brrrr, and they continue to make money.

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Post by ptero »

Eisenstein wrote: post #570
ptero wrote: post #565

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No, teaching what the local parents believe is best for their own kids. While there are certainly a few of those who will want bibles, most in my experience put much higher value in the extra STEM unhindered by ideology. My kids high school recently cancelled advanced math classes because the racial composition of students there was not what the school hoped to see. No, thank you, I want parents to have a much bigger…

Which Federal policy was it that led to that class cancelation?

Some equal access policy that it was worried about. Do you have kids? If so, what age(s)?

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Post by shakes_mcjunkie »

dizlexic wrote: post #513
specialist wrote: post #431

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Have you read Robert Caro's The Power Broker? It's a biography of Robert Moses.

Robert Moses did not build the USA highway system. Robert Moses was racist. What was done to some communities was messed up. The highway system isn't racist.

What point are you trying to make? I don't see how you're connecting these things. The highway where I live is certainly designed with racist intent.

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Post by shakes_mcjunkie »

radiofreeeuropa wrote: post #376
TimorousBestie wrote: post #276

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> Babies are not babies until they are born. They’re fetuses. This is a factual statement with accurate medical terminology. We don’t call them meteorites until they hit the earth, either.

In medical jargon, sure. In common usage, including among medical professionals , it's extremely common to just say "baby" in many contexts, especially when the baby is wanted and expected to be viable and brought to term. Nobody but a few weirdos or people trying to make some kind of a joke are gonna say to their partner "oh, did they give you any pictures of our fetus from the ultrasound? Oh look at our fetus ' tin…

> "acksually they're fetuses"

I highly doubt anyone in your actual life has said this to you, or distilled the entire argument down to this point.

> because it's semantic bullshit

Obviously, semantics isn't "bullshit" because there's been a massive decades long debate over semantics, including millions and millions spent by the right to define the semantics.

I can concede that some people hear this debate and think they're under attack in a "culture war", which I'm really not sure what the solution to that is because semantics is important.

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