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AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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There is an extension called "I still don't care about cookies" that mostly solves the nag screens (There's also a similar one that doesn't have the "still" in its name but that one was bought by an ad company and enshittified.) AFAIU it usually accepts the cookies though, so you should combine it with something that clears your cookies periodically. Sometimes it breaks the site so that you can't scroll or something,…

No need to use a specific extension, uBlock Origin is all you need. Just enable the "Easy List/uBO - Cookie Notices" filter from the filters list (the default is off).

I'm going to try that, thank you!

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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Here is the experience when clicking a link on mobile: * Page loads, immediately when I start scrolling and reading a popup trying to get tracking consent * If I am lucky, there is a "necessary only". When unlucky I need to click "manage options" and first see how to reject all tracking * There is a sticky banner on top/bottom taking 20-30% of my screen upselling me a subscription or asking me to install their app. U…

For those who want to experience it: https://how-i-experience-web-today.com/ The only inaccurate thing of that meme page is that you only need to uncheck 5 cookie "partners", when in reality there should be at least a few hundred.

The site has a few other issues... The ads contrast with the content instead of blending in; there are only 2 ads inline with the content, and one is clearly an easy to ignore banner; all the cookie "partners" could be disabled, there should be 2 or 3 that you can't change.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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I still find it amazing that the world's largest search engine, which so many use as an oracle, is so happy to put wrong information at the top of its page. My examples recently - - Looking up a hint for the casino room in the game "Blue Prince", the AI summary gave me details of the card games on offer at the "Blue Prince Casino" in the next suburb over. There is no casino there. - Looking up workers rights during a…

Google stopped being a search engine long time ago. Now it's the worlds biggest advertisement company, waging war on Adblockers and pushing dark pattern to users. They've built a browser monopoly with Chrome and can throw their weight around to literally dictate the open web standards. The only competition is Mozilla Firefox, which ironically is _also_ controlled by Google, they receive millions annually from them.

Technically, Safari is a bigger competitor than Firefox, and it's actually independent from Google. But it's not like it's better for the user...

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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> … don't block crawlers. this rhymes a lot with gangsterism. if you don’t pay our protection fee it would be a shame if your building caught on fire.

How else do you expect them to get the information from your site if you block them from accessing it?

"How do you expect the gangsters to protect your business if you don't pay them?"

In many, if not most cases, the producers of this information never asked for LLMs to ingest it.

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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Here is the experience when clicking a link on mobile: * Page loads, immediately when I start scrolling and reading a popup trying to get tracking consent * If I am lucky, there is a "necessary only". When unlucky I need to click "manage options" and first see how to reject all tracking * There is a sticky banner on top/bottom taking 20-30% of my screen upselling me a subscription or asking me to install their app. U…

I have been leaning more and more on Marginalia Search to avoid the type of webpages you are describing. The filters centered on page technologies seem to weed out much that is wrong with the modern style-over-substance web, IMHO.

I'm actually rolling out changes as we speak that should make nuisance identification even better, and will result in throwing out fewer babies with the bathwater.

https://marginalia-search.com/site/www.fontstruct.com?view=t...

https://marginalia-search.com/search?query=special%3Apopover...

Re: AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

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>More than likely, people return to publishing content because they love the subject matter and not because it is an angle to “create content” or “gain followers” or show ads. Why would you do that if you thought it was going to be hoovered up by some giant corporation and spat out again for $20 a month with no attribution.

Because they like to make stuff more than they value a subscription. I'm gonna write music no matter what happens to it.

I understand that, I’m in the middle of a project right now that has no commercial value to me. What I’m not going to do is offer it up to Google et al so they can profit from it.

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> That same person might have actually paid money if they weren’t (somewhat legitimately) lied to about it being free. Or just not gone. His problem.

When people like that show up and start screaming and yelling at the staff, it’s everyone’s problem.

People like that are screaming at somebody wherever they might be at the moment. There isn't any technical solutions to them.

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Yes, this is the experience on virtually every content website that used to be tolerable or even good. But this is because there is no viable monetization model for non-editorial written word content anymore and hasn’t been for a decade. Google killed the ecosystem they helped create. Google also killed the display ad market by monopolizing it with Adsense and then killed Adsense revenue sharing with creators to take…

YouTube is 20 years old now. Either the encrapification is very slow or they landed on a decent ad model. Plus there is a subscription that eliminates ads. I think it’s a great experience for users. Many creators also seem to do well too. I think this should be the model for a new generation of search. Obviously there will be ads/sponsored results. But there should be a subscription option to eliminate the ads. The k…

The advertising tier has gradually gotten worse on YouTube.
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