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Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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Post by csomar »

cwalv wrote: post #547
ctxc wrote: post #542

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That's must be annoying to say the least. In India drivers require an OTP to start a ride. The OTP is the same for a user across rides, so I have mine memorised which is nifty. No fiddling with the phone during boarding. On security: exploiting this would require the driver to stay in my vicinity the next time I book a ride, and also get the ride assigned to them. In a high population density area, it's rare - I've n…

An OTP that's reused?

It solves the problem for 99.99% of the time. Drivers are not going to memorize your OTP; and it is unlikely that an OTP list will be leaked/used anytime soon.

Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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Post by fc417fc802 »

whimsicalism wrote: post #459
anon84873628 wrote: post #454

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The Waymo also can't force you to get out. Probably you can just give it a new address.

Have you ever used a Waymo?

Is that relevant? It's a driverless car. Simply don't get out. Maybe it drives you back to dispatch or to the police station. Maybe the police show up to the current location. Regardless its got to be safer than wandering around a neighborhood you definitely don't belong in.

Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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Post by notpushkin »

semiquaver wrote: post #266
ndr wrote: post #256

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You can dispute via your credit card. They'll care quickly enough.

Lyft will ban your account if you issue a chargeback. You’ll get your money back but if you want to continue to use the service this is not a good option.

Just get a new account?

Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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Post by fc417fc802 »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #485
raptorfactor wrote: post #444

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If your friend thinks it's okay to threaten to assault a driver, especially for an issue that wasn't the driver's fault, then it sounds like "da hood" is where he belongs...

Not sure if he did. He probably didn’t have to. He’s a big guy, but also one of the most decent people I know (but let’s not assume anything). He never said he did. It was my assumption (ASS out of U and ME). It’s also possible he bribed the driver enough. He could certainly afford it. I didn’t actually ask him. I do know that he (and the two women with him) were pretty terrified of being left in the middle of that a…

The absurdity here is that any cabbie would be happy to continue driving you around as long as you're able to pay for it. It's the entire business model after all.

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Post by astrange »

theamk wrote: post #466
Scoundreller wrote: post #373

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Once every vehicle is a Waymo/autonomous, can we all jay-walk with impunity?

You won't get hit, yes. But if this starts happening too much, I wonder if in the future, vehicles will start reporting jaywalking to police automatically, complete with video evidence and automated face id?

Jaywalking isn't a crime in California.

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Post by astrange »

browningstreet wrote: post #19
taylodl wrote: post #3

I think my autonomavertigo would prevent me from ever taking a Waymo. Autonomavertigo (noun): The disorienting fear or anxiety experienced when surrendering control to autonomous systems, especially self-driving vehicles. Often accompanied by phantom brake-pumping and suspicious glances at the dashboard.

There's none of this in a Waymo, and the phantom braking is reduced but still present in FSD Teslas... and yes, it's anger-inducing.

A Waymo did take me full speed through a pothole in LA recently. That was unpleasant.

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Post by dataflow »

bravoetch wrote: post #502
dataflow wrote: post #478

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This seems... interesting, legally speaking. I imagine the idea is that you're implicitly accepting alterations to the previous contract by opting to take the car? Would that argument hold water, legally?

I ran into a similar arbitration with a condo I rented for a long weekend. There was a significant issue and they weren't able to provide another place. We stayed there and had contractors in and out for the next couple of days. They refused to refund me, so I tried through my credit card to get a refund and they said "well you should have just left, then we would refund you. But since you stayed, the contract is ful…

Credit card disputes don't always match up with the law, so I wouldn't put too much weight on this from a legal standpoint, but good anecdote nonetheless.

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Post by roenxi »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #492
nearlyepic wrote: post #417

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Give me $3.

Are you going to provide me a useful service on a regular basis? You're really missing the point here if not.

The point is a bad one that should be missed. $3 isn't negligible. It isn't usually [0] worth spending $4 to recover, but it is nonetheless money. People can't just arbitrarily charge each other $3 for nothing.

[0] Game theory says sometimes it makes sense to be unreasonable.

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Post by chgs »

liveoneggs wrote: post #316
booi wrote: post #312

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It's also impossible to book an Uber with 2 child seats so, i guess i'm effed then.

search "mifold grab and go booster" on amazon

That does not look like a legal child seat

Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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Post by fc417fc802 »

Retric wrote: post #331
semiquaver wrote: post #266

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Lyft will ban your account if you issue a chargeback. You’ll get your money back but if you want to continue to use the service this is not a good option.

Do it anyway. You get your money back, it costs them more money, and the more they ban people over stuff like this the faster you run shitty companies out of business. To do anything else promotes them doing the same thing to you in the future and other people.

This is true, but when there's only a couple options in town you have to assess if you're going to need to use that service in the future. That said, I find it a bit strange that it's legal to retaliate for making use of a right afforded to you by law. It would be like taking them to small claims court, winning, and being banned as a result. (Now that I wrote that I'm wondering if it's a thing that happens.)
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