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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Hmm... as someone who lives in LA... I think your news stream is polluted. There were maybe 100 bad actors. Responding to people in military gear vanishing day labourers and fruit sellers and seamstresses. Bringing in 10,000 National Guard and 1,000 Marines is not an appropriate response.

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Question from outsider: if a Marine uses lethal force against a civilian in this case, in what court will he be tried?

They'll be prosecuted by Kevin Bacon, with Tom Cruise as their defense attorney, and with Jack Nicholson giving a rousing testimony in which he confesses that he is the one who gave the order to the marines to commit the crime.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Exactly The aggressive raids aren't in Florida or Texas, or even California farm county, they're targeting urban areas, and getting the intended headlines.

They do in Texas. Is just that Texas dont buy into the santuary cities bullshit, and raids always happaned there.

They may not be called sanctuary cities officially, but if that idea didn't exist there, Texas Senate Bill 4 wouldn't exist in the first place. And it wouldn't be on hold and disputed today.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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> Apparently to the Marines it means “lay down a curtain of suppressive fire using your rifles.” Is that supposed to be a surprise to someone? What do you think "cover fire" is?

That’s why the post says “cover me”, not “cover fire”.

Well, "cover fire" is a noun, and can't be used as a command.

It's called that because it's how you cover people.

If you ask someone to darn your sock, and they do, will you complain "hey, I didn't say 'darning needle'"?

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Yeah, the whole platform is about Othering. The greatest trick the rich ever pulled was convincing the middle class that the poor are the cause of all their problems.

I'm confused. I don't recall anyone ever saying that we need to get rid of the poor, but rather that we should try to make conditions better for everyone such that fewer people are poor. Did I miss my scheduled indoctrination message?

I don't recall anyone ever saying...

Don't focus on words. Focus on actions. For example, the action of deploying the military on Americans does not make conditions better for us. Quite the contrary. The action of having a military parade for the president's birthday is expensive and doesn't benefit us. That money could be going to education, school lunches, Medicaid, building bridges, etc. But it isn't. it is only going to stroke the president's ego. Most of his actions, EO's, deals, bills, etc., fall into this category.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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> Apparently to the Marines it means “lay down a curtain of suppressive fire using your rifles.” Is that supposed to be a surprise to someone? What do you think "cover fire" is?

The fact that it meant something else to someone else is, if you look closely, the entire point of the anecdote.

And the phrasing, "Apparently, ...", presents this as if it was hard to foresee. It was definitely not hard to foresee.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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This is what Canada mostly does and it’s super effective, the problem is that the people who employ illegal immigrants: farmers, construction contractors, hotel owners, etc…belong to the same party pushing against illegal immigration, they would basically be punishing themselves, so it isn’t going to happen.

I think the real reason is that Trump feels that the illegal immigration issue generates votes for him so actually solving it is the last thing he wants to do.

This has been true of every major policy ‘lock in’ topic for both parties for at least a decade, if not more.

Gun control, abortion, immigration (legal and illegal), taxation/gov’t spending, affirmative action (aka DEI), etc.

Trump is really good at pushing buttons and generating outrage though. Not unexpected for a reality TV show star.

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Hmm... as someone who lives in LA... I think your news stream is polluted. There were maybe 100 bad actors. Responding to people in military gear vanishing day labourers and fruit sellers and seamstresses. Bringing in 10,000 National Guard and 1,000 Marines is not an appropriate response.

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

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In California?

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

The Republican party is incentivized both to have illegal immigration, and to fight against illegal immigration. They act accordingly to those incentives.

Cheap workers that are also under constant threat of getting deported (and have no real legal recourse because of it) are awfully convenient for many business models.
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