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Re: Material 3 Expressive

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I get your point but they’re all the same: colored/saturated: on. White/grey: off

True enough, but there's still UX improvements to be made. Most toggles you could fit the word "On" and "Off" within the blank area of the switch to have text that indicates its state as well. Or maybe even vertical toggles that mimic physical light switches.

on iOS an I/O label to indicate the state can be added as an accessibility feature

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Yeah, my phone is just an accessory I keep in my pocket, but only when I know I may need it for something, e.g. time or calls. Sometimes I do not even take it with myself. No reason for me to do that. I just hit 30.

I feel you guys, but do you read and write here from your laptops? I never come here from a desktop browser, only a smartphone.

I read and write from a desktop PC at work. Echo the other person who replied. I can't stand virtual keyboards for writing anything as long as ... about this comment.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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It doesn’t do the internal navigation. And since React doesn’t have built-in support for pushState (Yes I know React Router, but it really wants a hash router), you really need extra work for an internal router. And therefore, every beginner dev does it manually and slightly inconsistently. So yes, React is absolutely the driver, same as Java is guilty for Guava existing, because it should have been built-in and perf…

> Yes I know React Router, but it really wants a hash router This doesn't sound right. The history API has been widely supported by all major browsers (including mobile) since 2013. React was also first released in 2013. Did React Router ever ship a version without a HistoryRouter.

I have been programming in React for 3 years and never heard of HistoryRouter.

You would be plentiful right to say it’s a programmer’s skills issue. But you have a very stinky pattern of masses of problems of programmers skills issue, leading to 90% React apps breaking the history.

I say it’s React’s fault. It should be built-in.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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I volunteer with seniors helping them with online problems. The lack of clear guidance what is and what is not an active element in a web view, responsive to touch, is their biggest cognitive burden. They really struggle.

Seniors make up 4-5% of the online population. As a cohort they're growing. Cognitive decline, visual acuity, memory all fade. So these are otherwise competent people who made good livings, now struggling with design choices with consequences for them.

There is simply no single abiding rule. It may be a red box, or a yellow circle, it may be words or a logo or a skuomorphism in cartoon sense.

I would suspect toddlers are the same. Who knows?

Gov.uk is exemplary for understanding this problem.

Material design isn't orthogonal in this, because it's flat aspects de-emphasis any clear distinction where prior coding models tended to have a gui look to buttons which lay outside this design imperative.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Green is always soothing in software! Apart from that colors are good i suppose too. Currently no device going to get A16 i guess I am happy with a15 as of now. Maybe when things settle down I will be seeing how it works.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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But it has a 30% increase in the key attribute of “rebelliousness”!

Reeks of "we asked about 1000 attributes and took our favourite ones that happened to go up" despite those increases not being statistically significant.

Who else feels this product is "stupid"? Alan? Lisa? Josh? Yana? Katy?

And did it "piss off" anyone else? Alan? Lisa? Josh? Yana? Katy?

And who else felt this product is "messed up"? Alan? Lisa? Josh? Yana? Katy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVq1wgIN62E

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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As someone who works in UX, I admire all the work the Google UX team puts into Material: tons of documentation, UI kits, theme generation tools, a lot of thinking on systematizing the color combinations, etc. However, this article has a lot of "Pepsi Logo" vibes ( https://www.scribd.com/document/541500744/Pepsi-Arnell-02110... ). I never confirmed if this was a hoax, but it was made into many news websites at the tim…

Pepsi, Tropicana, Windows Phone, etc. It’s designers and UX researchers in a bubble.
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