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DOGE worker’s code supports NLRB whistleblower

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Post by lobsterthief »

avs733 wrote: post #508
Braxton1980 wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I'm just guessing I'd think it would be better to wait until Ukraine is done and trump is out of office. Creating mistrust in Doge only helps Democrats

No, the two sides live in different information spheres. This story will percolate up to many democrats who will be furious that Russia is “helping” “doge”. Separately, it won’t (or will be dismissed as “overreacting” or “lying”) by republicans. They will see the democrats as overreacting and having trump derangement syndrome. Meanwhile, the next doge encounter with an agency now brings greater fear of illicit acts f…

This is a great take but please don’t even dignify “trump derangement syndrome” by using it in conversation like this. That’s exactly what the people who created the term wanted it to be used for, ironically sowing further division.

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Post by lobsterthief »

lucasRW wrote: post #570
op00to wrote: post #551

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Is there a difference between a year ago and today? Is someone else sitting behind the resolute desk?

You didn't get the point. The alleged "Russian login attempts" were blocked by CAPs. Russian state-sponsored actors have showned in the past that they use residential relay boxes to get around that. If you read between the lines of the whistleblower claims, a lot of stuff doesn't add up. I especially like the conclusion that a deathnote was left on his door BEFORE he blew the whistle, and that a drone was hovering ov…

This adds up perfectly to me.

* He could’ve gotten a death note because they suspected he might become a whistleblower, or simply because of what he knew. * This death note could have been the final straw. * Drones fly over my house all the time. If I witnessed what he did and received a death note, I may assign additional significance to it.

None of this is implausible at all.

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Post by DrillShopper »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #565
DrillShopper wrote: post #535

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Yeah, but you'd think racking up hundreds of thousands of non-combatants deaths and flash frying Pakastani wedding parties remotely because of target misidentification would be high on the list of things to prosecute, if you're the Democrats. If they won't even investigate the wholesale murder of civilians by the command of the White House and CIA and prosecute those reaponsbile for murder and torture then what hope…

> you'd think racking up hundreds of thousands of non-combatants deaths and flash frying Pakastani wedding parties remotely because of target misidentification would be high on the list of things to prosecute, if you're the Democrats A consistent mistake by the Democrats is thinking foreign policy will win votes. It doesn’t. We’re the centre of the empire and that makes us arrogant and self centred. You can’t win a n…

> A consistent mistake by the Democrats is thinking foreign policy will win votes.

Trump won votes in 2024 based on how he said he would handle several foreign policy issues: NATO, Ukraine, Palestine, tariffs, China, and Iran, so I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

> You can’t win a national election based on war crimes.

This clearly is the case, so do the prosecutions after winning the election and running on domestic issues. To do anything less is to both give up the moral high ground and endorse the war crimes by not vigorously investigating them.

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Post by dfedbeef »

e40 wrote: post #546
dfedbeef wrote: post #111

The CEO of Tesla and Space-X; a self-proclaimed high IQ individual, an alleged programmer, has apparently hired a straight-up script kiddie to their elite delta force of technical government downsizers.

You are discounting the possibility that he wants them to wreak havoc and cause the systems to fail. The Republican dream is for government to fail and be privatized. What better way for government to fail?

Idk probably a way where he doesn't look incompetent

(Btw, awesome username!)

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Post by garbagewoman »

DaSHacka wrote: post #569
garbagewoman wrote: post #563

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How is that relevant?

Because the topic of pardons was brought up? Read through a discussion chain before responding to an individual reply.

I did read through it, i don’t generally just jump to a random point in the comment chain to start reading. The topic of something being brought up doesn’t necessarily mean its the topic being discussed. Keep your personal feelings in check and don’t react so emotionally.

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Post by rtkwe »

vimax wrote: post #489
ourmandave wrote: post #300

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That's straight up traitorous. DOGE needs to be shutdown and everyone of them held as a flight risk while the whole thing is investigated.

Not to defend doge at be all, but the article specifically mentioned installing a bunch of proxy and scraping tools. Is this likely to be an actual Russian state attack or just extremely poor opsec / an attempt to evade internal controls, still likely very illegal. I'm all for holding all involved accountable to the fullest extent, but this is too sloppy for Russian state involvement to make me think they're on any i…

On the other side, why would Russia need to hide it's involvement in anything with this administration? If they're not willing collaborators they're seemingly entirely beguiled by Russia propaganda and schmoozing.

Brazenly just logging in from Russia can be a statement all its own.

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Post by e40 »

DaSHacka wrote: post #553
e40 wrote: post #547

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Ah, yes, the "both sides" argument. Yes, the Biden and Trump2 administrations are just the same. Move along...

When it comes to pardons, I actually believe Biden was significantly worse in that regard.

I don't see how you could come to that conclusion. Here are the facts:

Biden:

* Nonviolent Drug Offenders: Biden focused heavily on criminal justice reform, commuting the sentences of nearly 2,500 individuals convicted of nonviolent drug offenses.

* Death Row Inmates: He commuted the sentences of 37 federal death row inmates to life imprisonment without parole.

* Preemptive Pardons: Biden issued preemptive pardons to several individuals, including Dr. Anthony Fauci and retired Gen. Mark Milley, to protect them from potential future prosecutions.

* Hunter Biden: In a controversial move, Biden granted a sweeping pardon to his son, Hunter Biden, covering any offenses between January 1, 2014, and December 1, 2024.

Only the last one is at all controversial. I disagree with it, but it was clearly a protective pardon instigated by rhetoric and actions by Trump.

Trump:

* Political Allies: Trump frequently granted clemency to individuals with personal or political connections, such as Michael Flynn, Roger Stone, and Paul Manafort.

* Capitol Rioters: In a sweeping move, Trump pardoned over 1,500 individuals involved in the January 6 Capitol riot.

* Controversial Figures: He also pardoned individuals like former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich and Michele Fiore, a former Las Vegas City Council member convicted of misusing charity funds.

All 3 categories of Trump's pardons are controversial. 1 vs thousands.

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Post by throw16180339 »

grandempire wrote: post #566
throw16180339 wrote: post #557

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> That’s been beat to death. He would face impeachment + removal from office. Republicans didn't object to Trump's coup attempt, fraud convictions, past attempted rapes, or proven corruption. 70% of them believe that he won the 2020 election. There's no reason to believe that they'd impeach him for child rape unless she was the daughter of a prominent Republican. Trump would have the girl killed, send her parents to…

> past attempted rapes You are spreading misinformation.

How?

It's certainly possible that none of the numerous allegations or proven cases of sexual assault (https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-...) were rape attempts, but that's at best an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence.

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Post by throw16180339 »

grandempire wrote: post #523
dfedbeef wrote: post #111

The CEO of Tesla and Space-X; a self-proclaimed high IQ individual, an alleged programmer, has apparently hired a straight-up script kiddie to their elite delta force of technical government downsizers.

> a straight-up script kiddie Why is the age such a talking point? An insight in startup culture is that the public underestimates young people, especially when it comes to business skills with objective results and tight feedback cycles. It just seems like now that HN is skewed older we no longer believe that?

There's ample evidence of incompetence from DoGE, including obvious coding security holes, firing people who ensure the safety of our nuclear arsenal, and other mistakes that you would expect from an unmotivated intern.

This is supporting evidence that they were picked for ideological reasons - namely, being young white supremacists who wouldn't ask any questions. That's why Marko Elez was rehired. Musk, Trump, and Vance all share his views, he was just dumb enough to express them in public.

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Post by neilv »

dkrich wrote: post #468
neilv wrote: post #279

> Berulis said he went public after higher-ups at the agency told him not to report the matter to the US-CERT, as they’d previously agreed. If the allegation is true, what would be the motivation of the higher-ups to keep this secret from US-CERT? It appears to be a severe compromise, and the context suggests that much of the rest of the federal government is imminently vulnerable to the same tactics by the same thre…

Or they’re just fearful of retaliation/termination for making waves with this administration

Becoming complicit.
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