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Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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You can get your HN profile analyzed and roasted by it. It's pretty funny :) https://hn-wrapped.kadoa.com/ I'll add a selection for different models soon.

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Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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>obsequious Thanks for the new word, I have to look it up. "obedient or attentive to an excessive or servile degree" Apparently it means an AI that mindlessly follow your logic and instructions without reasoning and articulation is not good enough.

It's a bit of a fancy way to say "yes man". Like in corporations or politics, if a leader surrounds themselves with "yes men". A synonym would be sycophantic which would be "behaving or done in an obsequious way in order to gain advantage." The connotation is the other party misrepresents their own opinion in order to gain favor or avoid disapproval from someone of a higher status. Like when a subordinate tries to gu…

The only reason I know the meaning of both words is because they occur in the lyrics of the Motorhead song "Orgasmatron"

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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I use roo code with Gemini to get similar results for free

Does its agentic features work with any API? I had tried this or Cline and it was clear that they work effectively only with Claude's tooling support.

Yes. Any API Key is allowed, Also you can assign different LLMs for different modes. It is great for cost-optimization. Like architect, code, ask, debug etc.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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I don't think it is as good as deepseek v3 for updating coding tasks. I use 2.5 pro as architect with deepseek v3 as editor engineer. This combination work almost so perfect. Flash has advantages of great context size though. gpt 4.1 is also great.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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Not the same logic because interns can make meaning out of the data - that’s built-in error correction. They also remember what they did - if you spot one misunderstanding, there’s a chance they’ll be able to check all similar scenarios. Comparing the mechanics of an LLM to human intelligence shows deep misunderstanding of one, the other, or both - if done in good faith of course.

Not sure why you're trying to conflate intellectual capability problems into this and complicate the argument? The problem layout is the same. You delegate the works to someone so you cannot understand all the details. This makes a fundamental tension between trust and confidence. Their parameters might be different due to intellectual capability, but whoever you're going to delegate, you cannot evade this trade-off.…

> not sure if you have experiences of delegating some works to human interns or new grads and being rewarded by disastrous results?

Oh yes I have ;)

Which is why I always explain the why behind the task.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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Isn't Grok 3 basically real time now?

No LLM is real time, and in fact, even a 2025 cut off isn't entirely realistic. Without guidance to say, a new version of a framework it will frequently "reference" documentation from old versions and use that. It's somewhat real time when it searches the web, of course that data is getting populated into context rather than in training.

You can query Grok on recent news and it will deliver the very recent updates (1 day old or probably even less)

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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Have you tried Grok 3? It's a bit verbose for my taste even when prompted to be brief but answers seem better/more researched and less opinionated. It's also more willing to answer questions where the other models block an answer.

A lot of people don't want to patronize the businesses of an unabashed Nazi sympathizer. There are more important things in life than model output quality.

Awesome. Very mature. Moral supremacist

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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Have you tried Grok 3? It's a bit verbose for my taste even when prompted to be brief but answers seem better/more researched and less opinionated. It's also more willing to answer questions where the other models block an answer.

I have not tried any of the Grok models but that is probably because I am rarely on X. I have to admit I have a bias where I think Google is "business" while Grok is for lols. But I should probably take the time to asses it since I would prefer to have an opinion based on experience rather than vibes.

Hehe, Google used to be cool when I studied but now it's just advertising and zero customer contact. But sure, business (or maybe big corp) fits now where it used to be more of a startup enterprise back in the late 2000. We worked with them on a project in 2018 and given the hard hiring processes they at least used to have, I was surprised to find that even inexperienced interns did better than what we got back. I'm sure it was a one-off case but the after-taste is still bitter. On the Grok side, I think of Tesla self driving. They've been doing AI for a long time. I used to own one and they never got to what they promised (self driving by the end of 2019) but it was really good for my taste. I still think of it as the best car I ever owned even though I went back to a gas guzzler when moving to the US. But hey, only 13mpg and it still uses less electricity than a Tesla;)

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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Google making Gemini 2.5 Pro (Experimental) free was a big deal. I haven't tried the more expensive OpenAI models so I can't even compare, only to the free models I have used of theirs in the past. Gemini 2.5 Pro is so much of a step up (IME) that I've become sold on Google's models in general. It not only is smarter than me on most of the subjects I engage with it, it also isn't completely obsequious. The model push…

More and more people are coming to the realisation that Google is actually winning at the model level right now.

Until they ditch it or make it ad-ridden like everything else.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash

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Google making Gemini 2.5 Pro (Experimental) free was a big deal. I haven't tried the more expensive OpenAI models so I can't even compare, only to the free models I have used of theirs in the past. Gemini 2.5 Pro is so much of a step up (IME) that I've become sold on Google's models in general. It not only is smarter than me on most of the subjects I engage with it, it also isn't completely obsequious. The model push…

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