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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Musk, Trump and DOGE topics are all being flagged, even if they are relevant… The tech world has blessed this regime.

I don't think 51% of the readers here need to flag something for it to get flagged - maybe more like 5% or 15%? I guess you can conclude that a few percent here likes Trump etc, but far from a majority

I never said that, I meant tech leaders and founders, not the user base…

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I need to determine if this is true. I had not heard of it before, and the idea she would qualify for a TN visa seemed a little thin, but the rules are so arbitrary and uneven (especially these days) who knows. Regardless this sounds like a nightmare, and to top it off is neither "DOGE-efficient" or increases US security. It's a least 4-combinations of lose-lose.

See my other reply, with receipts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43413758

Hmm, I'm not an American so this is all new and pretty interesting. If you wholly or partly own a company and the company sponsors your TN, would that be OK? Or is that still 'self-sponsorship' under the regulations?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I've noticed this a ton lately. So, so many posts completely brigaded. Regardless of if the flag is removed, it can easily stop discussion and visibility of the thread. I emailed Dang about it when I first noticed it happening, and the response... ``` Sorry for the delay in getting back to you—it's been a crazy last few days! Users flagged that one. We can only guess why users flag things, but there have been so many…

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I was responding to someone dismissing concerns as "reflexive hysteria." Historical parallels aren't uncivil, they help examine patterns. The HN guidelines discourage flamewars and personal attacks, neither of which I did. I challenged a characterization, not the person. If discussing historical parallels to current events is now considered inappropriate for HN, that would significantly narrow meaningful conversation beyond what the guidelines actually state.

I'd love some clarification here.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I don't think 51% of the readers here need to flag something for it to get flagged - maybe more like 5% or 15%? I guess you can conclude that a few percent here likes Trump etc, but far from a majority

As someone on neither side of that aisle I can tell you it is the smothering effect of attempting any logical discussion in those topics. The smothering effect comes from one side more often than not. The best part of it all is that you can post like the above with no clear side chosen and the people whom it applies to will react to it negatively as well.

It is a good point, and I've long been a proponent of this, that everyone needs to flag the excessive elements of "their side" more in the current climate.

Humans are humans. Some humans are dumb and emotion-prone. Some humans who are dumb and emotion-prone think their bad behavior is justified because they're on the side of justice/righteousness.

It's not enough, in our current climate, to look the other way because someone is on a similar team...

Reinvigorating honest, fair discussion requires everyone interact more positively.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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> outside the horrible behaviour of border officers who show you that you are not welcome They've always (in my life, which is largely post 9/11) done that to US citizens too. Going into Canada it was "where are you going to? the beach, eh? have a nice day!", coming back seemed to be performed under the suspicion that our passports were fake and our car was made out of drugs. Despite doing nothing wrong, we were alwa…

never experienced this as a us citizen and I travel often. usually it is a polite "welcome home", otherwise it's a bored "ok you're good"

I got a light interrogation as a US citizen. For the record, I have Global Entry, NEXUS, and TSA Pre-Check.

I handed the border agent my US passport and the conversation went like this

"why are you entering the country?"

"I live here"

"do you have legal status in the US?"

"I'm a citizen, you're holding my passport"

"have you ever overstayed a visa in the US in the past?"

"I was born here, so no"

"do you intend to do any work while you're in the US?"

"yes, I'm a US citizen and I have a job"

I didn't get pulled off to the side or anything, it was just standard questioning at entry processing when flying in, but it was just bizarre

the border agent kept looking me up and down suspiciously like I was hiding something, but he had my passport the whole time

even when I got questioned on my way to Canada (I would've stopped me too), they were much nicer about the whole process, it's an air of "we're just double checking cuz making a mistake here would be real bad, but as long as everything's legit, no worries, I hope you have a nice stay in Canada"

entering the US the vibe is "you're a violent criminal and it's my job to ask you questions until you slip up and admit that fact, the US is magnanimous for allowing you to touch our great country's land with your disgusting feet, and you should remember that every day you're here or we'll detain you so you won't forget again"

I'm a little surprised you've only had positive experiences.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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After a long interrogation, the officer told me it seemed “shady” and that my visa hadn’t been properly processed. He claimed I also couldn’t work for a company in the US that made use of hemp – one of the beverage ingredients. i don't know what hemp is or how is related to THC.

Hemp is used to make rope.

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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And here in lies the problem: wedge issues. Taking something, blowing it out of proportion and turning into a partisan issue on purpose. Abortion, LGBTQ rights, immigration. It becomes impossible to have nuanced, rational discussion about those topics, and its on purpose. One side thrives off of making them emotional, hot-button issues. Shunning discussion of it here or elsewhere because it's an emotional, hot-button…

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I've noticed this a ton lately. So, so many posts completely brigaded. Regardless of if the flag is removed, it can easily stop discussion and visibility of the thread. I emailed Dang about it when I first noticed it happening, and the response... ``` Sorry for the delay in getting back to you—it's been a crazy last few days! Users flagged that one. We can only guess why users flag things, but there have been so many…

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I'm sorry, is there a contradiction to guidelines? What wrong do you see in that post? I'm genuinely curious.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Rhetorical question, or are you genuinely asking?

I wonder why they chose to work for ICE...

ICE is often the employer of last resort for wannabe cops who can't get jobs at other agencies due to low IQ, poor physical fitness, criminal history, misconduct, etc.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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> Thanks, the EU is full and has enough immigrants EU is full of old people and not enough children. The population pyramid looks like a bullet: https://www.populationpyramid.net/europe/2024/ It's not difficult to see where that leads to, if we stop accepting immigrants.

The "immigration crisis" is silently saving the retirement programs of EU countries. People are xenophobic to the point of willingly engaging in self sabotaging their countries.

People would literally rather die impoverished, uncared for, and with no dignity in a failing system than maybe have a few brown people around who casually speak a different language and yet, by the testimony of everyone I've ever asked work ten times harder than any local for literally anything.

Like, it's not a perfect solution, there are growing pains, but an adult someone else paid to give a high school education is an insanely good resource. The US's entire gimmick and history has been getting millions of poor immigrants with different ideas and a shred of hope and putting them to work building our country.

But nononono we definitely didn't do this bullshit already with chinese, japanese, german, italian, irish, african, jewish, polish, etc etc etc people. Don't you know it's utterly impossible for people from another country to ever get along with locals? They definitely don't consider themselves just "American" after three generations very reliably, no that would be too easy!

God forbid people in ten generations have slightly darker skin I guess.

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