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Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by Volundr »

zeroCalories wrote: post #516
davesque wrote: post #344

Seems safe to assume that the DOGE kids probably scored copies of the data they had access to even if that access was or will be revoked, especially considering that some of them have a history of data theft as mentioned in the article.

That seems so incredibly stupid and risky. You're in with Elon and get to help shape the future of the country. Why jeopardize that? Trump will only pardon so much.

I mean he's already demonstrated that beating a cop with a flagpole falls in the category of things he'll pardon, so I'm not really sure what is and isn't in scope now.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by UncleMeat »

jsiepkes wrote: post #339
billfor wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> He cofounded paypal which is payment system. Presumably he knows about things like payment systems, fraud, etc... No, he didn't. He founded x.com as a payment system which was substantially less popular then paypal. Due to a bunch of mergers of parent companies, x.com and paypal had to merge. Musk became CEO and the whole thing was later sold to ebay, he left and cashed out big. That whole timeline unfolded in just…

And famously was given the boot for pursuing dumb technical decisions too.

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Post by bigfudge »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #485
watwut wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am genuinely more concerned by Elon Musk himself having access then one of these with skeletons in the closet. USA adversaries are no more dangerous then USA is to itself.

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Assuming this is true (and it's plausible), getting top secret clearance is _not_ going to be the same as getting unrestricted copies of every large government database. It presumably just means you have permission to read _some_ top secret documents, on a need to know basis?

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Post by Spooky23 »

armchairhacker wrote: post #556
I_am_tiberius wrote: post #510

I find it shockingly absurd how the All-In podcast hosts blindly support everything one of their own does. It’s obvious they treat Musk like a god. In the latest episode, they even made fun of concerns about privacy, claiming that all people care about is the state not wasting money. - completely dismissing worries about data exposure.

Elon Musk is the #1 richest man in the world, out of >7 billion. Everyone knows who he is. Celebrities to him are almost what commoners are to rich people. Joe Rogan, the biggest podcaster, has Wealth, attention, and power influence people. If you had more of them, or a solid chance at more, you'd be influenced too.

Rogan isn’t really about money. He has a value beyond dollars… in the end, he likely has a lot more staying power than Elon, whose fall will probably be faster than the rise.

He’s like a cross of Rush Limbaugh in his early prime, Howard Stern and Art Bell. Exceptional broadcast talent with a safe space to deliver a message.

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Post by nathanaldensr »

markus_zhang wrote: post #471

I just hope they post everything they found. I don't care about their credentials and neither do I care about security -- those damned companies already had them 10 times anyway. But it's very interesting if they can release all information. I mean it's a democracy, right?

I've already seen people in my Facebook feed saying they don't trust the data DOGE has released. They want "proof." What will they take for proof--the raw data files and databases? Will they have the skill to analyze those datasets the same way DOGE is?

I'd love to see the data publicly released and hopefully it will be--in a court of law. There are almost certainly numerous crimes committed over the past several decades laundering taxpayer money through these federal agencies; trials would hopefully lead to evidence being made public.

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Post by hot_topic »

impulser_ wrote: post #499
culi wrote: post #454

> the DOGE teen is a former denizen of ‘The Com,’ an archipelago of Discord and Telegram chat channels that function as a kind of distributed cybercriminal social network for facilitating instant collaboration To be honest, this is my first time hearing about The Com. Does anyone have any more reading on this? You'd think they'd use something more secure than Discord (which has 0 encryption) and Telegram which doesn'…

The Com is just a general term for crime communities on the Internet. Its not a specific group. The Com includes groups that commit crimes stretching from cybercrime to literally the worst crimes you can think of and the vast majority of this is done on Discord and Telegram. You can go down a really dark rabbit hole if you really dig deep into some of these groups within The Com. This is where the worst of the worst…

no it isn't. What a blind take. As someone who has ventured down these forums when I was younger. Its a mix of gamers/programmers/online hustlers. Some of it is grey area, some if it is renting out RDP's/VPNS for malicious users acting as middlemen for the criminals.

The mob mentality of rule following software engineers on here who are throwing out the accusation that these are all hardened criminals that want to burn down society here are a testament to the fact that hackernews is a cesspool of careerists. If you haven't ventured down these, I would even argue that you've no idea how the internet actually functions outside of your usual entertainment holes.

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Post by jawiggins »

jarsin wrote: post #521
I_am_tiberius wrote: post #510

I find it shockingly absurd how the All-In podcast hosts blindly support everything one of their own does. It’s obvious they treat Musk like a god. In the latest episode, they even made fun of concerns about privacy, claiming that all people care about is the state not wasting money. - completely dismissing worries about data exposure.

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I recall listening to the episode of the podcast where they were discussing the pending twitter takeover. I felt very mislead about the situation when these emails came out and showed they may have been involved parties.

Now I have a lot more appreciation for traditional journalistic institutions each time they disclose that they are reporting on a sponsor or otherwise affiliated institution.

For as much as the All-In crowd love to rag against the MSM - they seem far less interested in disclosing their financial interest in the stories they cover.

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Post by orwin »

gyudin wrote: post #548
burkaman wrote: post #472

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Krebs has written other articles about it: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/09/the-dark-nexus-between-h...

Yes and he’s literally just a journalist with no real cybersecurity background

Well to be fair, a lot of people who fancy themselves as a part of the Com don't have any either. A lot of them are skiddies posers. Quite the cringe crowd tbh, or maybe I just found a particularly young group.

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Post by c0nsumer »

Liftyee wrote: post #555
dang wrote: post #684

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent all day responding to the replies here, and then detaching them in order to save space at the top of the thread. But I just had a better idea. This is a stub comment so we have a single root to collapse the replies. This way (1) replies can stay close to their parent (the top comment) without flooding the screen with offtopicness; and (2) we can all re-experience the timeless truth of https://en.wikipedia.org…

Genuine question - What's the meaning of "activating" as an opposite to "interesting" in this context? I've never heard it used like this and couldn't get good results from searching.

As I read it, when someone is "activated" they are provoked to responding; someone replying because they want to say something. I see "triggered" as somewhat of an analogy, but a much more loaded word.

This seems to stand opposed to people who reply because they have something interesting to say.

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Post by cduzz »

armchairhacker wrote: post #556
I_am_tiberius wrote: post #510

I find it shockingly absurd how the All-In podcast hosts blindly support everything one of their own does. It’s obvious they treat Musk like a god. In the latest episode, they even made fun of concerns about privacy, claiming that all people care about is the state not wasting money. - completely dismissing worries about data exposure.

Elon Musk is the #1 richest man in the world, out of >7 billion. Everyone knows who he is. Celebrities to him are almost what commoners are to rich people. Joe Rogan, the biggest podcaster, has Wealth, attention, and power influence people. If you had more of them, or a solid chance at more, you'd be influenced too.

This whole thing puzzles me.

These dingos are wealthy because they've got money in banks and stocks in brokerages.

If the US dollar is managed like the 1980s iraqi dinar, and the stock market is regulated as strictly as the 1980s baghdad stock exchange, what happens to their wealth?

Apologies to the lackeys of Saddam Hussein, some of whom I'm sure were quite professional.

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