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Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by transcriptase »

8note wrote: post #561
transcriptase wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you’ve, intentionally or not, hit on a critical point that most like to ignore while passively accepting that “China is simply where things are manufactured”. As if that wasn’t the case until about the time the median HN reader was born. Some will attribute it to the proximity of factories to one another, collaboration between those in adjacent industries, culture, government intentionality, a general lack of…

> Canada implementing carbon pricing and phasing out coal domestically while simply shipping it to Asia instead Canada's carbon pricing is to incentivize buying stuff that has less carbon emissions. there's nothing particularly holier-than-thou about it, its just there to get the infrastructure to swap.

Yes I’ve heard that speech from Freeland a dozen times too. And yet she just announced if she’s elected leader of the LPC she’s going to do away with it.

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Post by 486sx33 »

catherd wrote: post #307
reaperman wrote: post #72

This is going to utterly fuck so many R&D projects at my company. We actually do large-scale manufacturing of industrial valves in the USA. But a lot of our prototyping involves working with Chinese suppliers and getting small batches of samples / prototypes / revisions sent in packages on airplanes. I literally do not know how the electrical and firmware engineers will do their jobs now if we cannot receive packages…

Only if "utterly fucked" somehow means you can still pay a bit more to DHL and get packages even faster than USPS. Your fast prototypes coming by air freight likely aren't routed through USPS at all unless it's the last leg of a consolidated shipment that's broken apart once it reaches the US. Those would be using some other carrier to get them from China to the US and then USPS only inside the US. USPS all the way f…

I was just going to say … uhh DHL ? Prototyping through the regular mail or even air mail is a little crazy it’s worked at all for you.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by 486sx33 »

dtquad wrote: post #120
reaperman wrote: post #72

This is going to utterly fuck so many R&D projects at my company. We actually do large-scale manufacturing of industrial valves in the USA. But a lot of our prototyping involves working with Chinese suppliers and getting small batches of samples / prototypes / revisions sent in packages on airplanes. I literally do not know how the electrical and firmware engineers will do their jobs now if we cannot receive packages…

>I literally do not know how the electrical and firmware engineers will do their jobs now if we cannot receive packages from China As a software engineer who works closely with electrical and firmware engineers I know what you are saying is completely true. The question is how did we let it go this far? Why has there never been serious Western alternatives to JLCPCB, PCBWay, JLCCNC etc.? Has anyone asked themselves h…

Apple uses fedex straight from Shanghai I’m sure that’s an option too

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by baby_souffle »

bb88 wrote: post #40

So if you're worried about packages coming from AliExpress, you probably shouldn't be. The last several packages I ordered were shipped USPS with an origin of the US. Los Angeles was the origin of the last one I received with AliExpress Choice(tm). It may affect ebay purchases of electronic parts from Shenzhen though. Particulary if the vendors use the Chinese post office. I also ordered a Keychron keyboard last week…

> So if you're worried about packages coming from AliExpress, you probably shouldn't be. The last several packages I ordered were shipped USPS with an origin of the US. Los Angeles was the origin of the last one I received with AliExpress Choice(tm).

Look closer at that shipping label, you'll probably see another one underneath it that is the original one. Just after clearing customs, packages are moved to this consolidation warehouse which is where your "LA Origin" label comes from. If you initiate a return, it's likely that you'll also ship your item back to another LA location.

It's the package/logistics equivalent of a reverse proxy or mux/de-mux step.

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Post by klipt »

troyvit wrote: post #540
throw_m239339 wrote: post #449

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> You metaphorically need to invent the universe to make it work in the US. You didnt answer the obvious question of the why things are the way they are now? US used to have their entire electronic supply chain, save from raw materials, in USA in the 70s... So why cant US build its own Shenzhen or Hong Kong? taxes? corporate taxes are relatively low in some US states, infrastructure? US has all the infrastructure nee…

> So why cant US build its own Shenzhen or Hong Kong? taxes? I would guess labor costs and practices are a big aspect. We send all our kids to stupid school instead of paying them pennies to get their tiny little fingers to work building micro-controllers for us and stuff.

Surely these days much of that is done by robots?

And will only be increasingly robotic with advances in AI.

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Post by soared »

markus_zhang wrote: post #432

I sincerely hope US and Canada can regrow some manufacturing capacity. I think the only way to do it is by a one-two punch, and middle class like me are going to seriously get hurt, but I still want it done, for the sake of later generations and for a better, safer, more competitive humanity. Safer because a successful reform removes the need of a world war. The one-two punch is: 1) A massive devaluation of housing,…

How do low pay manufacturing jobs create a better, safer, more competitive humanity? What does that phrase mean?

Why not educate the masses to have successfull careers like most of HN, maybe working remote for a foreign company, and taking the salary back home to the US?

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Post by soared »

nico wrote: post #93

The speed at which all of this is happening is astounding Is this all improvised or was there a big list of stuff to do ahead of time? If the latter, does anyone have a copy of that list? Alternatively, is anyone keeping track of what's already been done so far?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_47

Trumps’s actual agenda, though slightly old generally aligns with his actions

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Post by suraci »

bobthepanda wrote: post #555
Daishiman wrote: post #548

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That's... worse than the US not building any infrastructure?

Is built infrastructure any good if it has to close or never operates? https://english.pardafas.com/china-sees-more-stations-shut-d... The local government debt burden that has resulted has also started resulting in other services getting cut, like local bus services ceasing to operate. What good is a high speed rail line you can't get to? https://www.asianews.it/news-en/Chinese-bus-crisis,-a-new-bu...

it's really weired because you seem know very much abt china but still are very misleaded

i'm really curious about how you get those information about china, because those information are mostly target to domestic chinese, rarely go abroad, the ultimate purpose of these information is to privatize state-owned enterprises(or opposite, it's complex, even for most Chinese live in China)

like,

> It calls on them to ensure that funding for public transport is included in their budgets, so that they can provide bus service operators with financial subsidies in a timely manner

if you know more abt it, you'll know the bogged bus service is a very classic example to show what'll happened if you handle your public service to a private enterprise, yes, not like China Railway, that bus operator is not a state-owned company, which was threating local gov for subsidies, would be better if they managed to force the local gov acquisite their shit

i sincerely you to dig more by yourself, be cautious with your sources

and if you want to know more abt the debt crisis in China, welcome to ask, a little tip, the keyword is 'bridge', not 'bus' or 'railway'

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Post by suraci »

geenkeuse wrote: post #380
maxwindiff wrote: post #309

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We hoped China would grow into a Korea or Japan, instead we got ourselves a Russia.

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> America is a company masquerading as a country

wow, didn't expect to see such insight here

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