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Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by maccard »

j1elo wrote: post #529
lynx23 wrote: post #495

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That brings a Python "performance" talk to mind that I was recently listening to on YouTube. The first point the presenter brought up was that he thinks the laptops of developers need to be more modern for Python to not be so slow. I had to stop the video right there, because this attitude isn't going anywhere.

You know what? I actually believe in having developers work (or maybe just test) with slower computers (when writing native apps) or with crippled networking (when doing web) in order to force them consider the real-world cases of not being in a confy office with top-notch computers and ultra high-bandwidth connections for testing.

I think dev containers can help here. You have a laptop that can run your editor, and a browser. The actual build is done on a remote machine so that we're not kneecapping you by subjecting you to compiling kotlin on a mid range machine, but your laptop still needs to be able to run the site.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by haspok »

I downloaded ZED for a quick play-around, but was quite shocked to find out that editing and saving a file runs an auto-formatter on it _by default_...

Whoever thought that was a great idea obviously has never worked with version control, with other people on a project? Sorry, but this is such an obviously wrong default setting, I'm surprised nobody pointed this out before?

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by ellieh »

hnarn wrote: post #485
lyu07282 wrote: post #449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously most distributions provide package managers that should be used for unified automated update mechanisms and gpg signing. Superior to curl | sh in every way.

It's not uncommon that the curl | sh method actually, among other things, detect what distro you're running and add the repos before installing via the package manager, so in the end it depends on what the script actually does. Atuin does it well for example: https://docs.atuin.sh/guide/installation/ -- and offers other options (as you should).

We're actually not going to be doing that for much longer. Lots of users kept querying how it was installed, where, how to remove it, etc.

The response of "it depends, we probably used your system package manager" was not often well received. Users who know how to use their package manager tended to just do that anyway, and not use the script.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by praveenperera »

haspok wrote: post #572

I downloaded ZED for a quick play-around, but was quite shocked to find out that editing and saving a file runs an auto-formatter on it _by default_... Whoever thought that was a great idea obviously has never worked with version control, with other people on a project? Sorry, but this is such an obviously wrong default setting, I'm surprised nobody pointed this out before?

wrong for you, right for me

everyone on your team should be using a auto-formatter

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by nopcode »

haspok wrote: post #572

I downloaded ZED for a quick play-around, but was quite shocked to find out that editing and saving a file runs an auto-formatter on it _by default_... Whoever thought that was a great idea obviously has never worked with version control, with other people on a project? Sorry, but this is such an obviously wrong default setting, I'm surprised nobody pointed this out before?

Enforcing auto-formatting is a common practice in my experience. Currently working on a project where the repo will refuse commits that are not following the repo-specific formatting settings.

I think it is a sane default in 2024.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by nicce »

haspok wrote: post #572

I downloaded ZED for a quick play-around, but was quite shocked to find out that editing and saving a file runs an auto-formatter on it _by default_... Whoever thought that was a great idea obviously has never worked with version control, with other people on a project? Sorry, but this is such an obviously wrong default setting, I'm surprised nobody pointed this out before?

Depends if there is actually well known standard to format. E.g Go or Rust has very commonly used defaults.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by rcoppolo »

haspok wrote: post #572

I downloaded ZED for a quick play-around, but was quite shocked to find out that editing and saving a file runs an auto-formatter on it _by default_... Whoever thought that was a great idea obviously has never worked with version control, with other people on a project? Sorry, but this is such an obviously wrong default setting, I'm surprised nobody pointed this out before?

Can you please explain why auto-formatting conflicts with version control/collaboration?

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by lf-non »

I started using this a few hours ago and so far am really pleased with the experience. Vim keybindings mostly work as expected and TS integration works great oob. I can totally see this becoming my primary editor going forward.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by major505 »

handsaway wrote: post #26

I tried zed for a few weeks because I'm generally sympathetic to the "use a native app" idea vs Electron. I generally liked it and its UX but: 1. VSCode is pretty damn fast to be honest. Very rarely is my slowdown in my work VSCode loading. Maybe I don't open very large files? Probably 5k lines of typescript at most. 2. Integration with the Typescript language server was just not as good as VSCode. I can't pin down e…

I came from Visual Studio to vscode. VsCode looks super lightweight to me.
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