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Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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lol, people and bands have been complaining about it for 30 years and it’s only gotten worse. Yes, you could skip concerts for the rest of your life, I suppose, to make a point. But it’s not going to fix anything.

Complaining yes, but how many people are actually putting their foot down? As for bands, they may actually be profiting from this scheme where ticketmaster ensures higher prices while taking the blame. If they really cared enough they could chose not to deal with Ticketmaster. Sure, that would limit their choices in venues which could mean lower potential for profit. Probably not going to be a real issue for the the…

It's possible you can put your foot down, lots of venues will sell you paper tickets at the box office. It's inconvenient but they also don't charge TM fees sooo. It's what I do since they open the box office during any of their events. Just get tickets for the next few shows right there.

> Even if you are really into music, concerts are just one way to experience it - and when it comes to audio quality, a fairly crappy one.

This fundamentally misunderstands why people go to see live music and honestly maybe what people enjoy about music entirely.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#572

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What if you need to arrive separately? Especially for a big event with tens of thousands of people, can be easier to meet up inside the venue on everyone’s timeline.

Then assign names to the tickets after purchase. Should be allowed up to 24 hours before the event or something.

That beats the entire purpose of having names on tickets, which is to stop scalers.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#573

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But also, the hell with this. I'm still sour enough about the TSA without the concept of, "I'll buy tickets for me and three of my friends then see who wants to go," becoming impossible or gated by ticket transfer fees.

Airlines are preventing a secondary market. Unfavorable for your use case, but also prevents scalping airline tickets (while allowing airlines to attempt to maximize revenue). There are always tradeoffs and compromise. To hack around this, I've used Southwest Airlines; I can buy tickets for folks and if they can't travel, we cancel the ticket(s) and keep the travel funds banked for another time. I hope this is potent…

except Southwest is easily the most expensive carrier these days and other carriers have also adopted flexibility

hopefully their new changes such as allowing their fares to be indexed will make them close to being competitive at some point. but today you really only get near-competitiveness (it's still bad) if you're going to check both pieces of luggage and have no way of getting free luggage on any other carrier.

even buying and throwing away tickets, depending on your probability of travel, might pay for itself in one trip.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#574
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Really good post! I also found this quote which distilled their position in the 404media coverage of the situation. > “What I can say for sure is that TicketMaster and AXS have had every opportunity to support scam-free third party ticket resale and delivery platforms if they wished: By documenting their ticket QR code cryptography, and by exposing apps and APIs which would allow verification and rotation of ticket s…

Monopoly is the keyword here. Ticketmaster and Boeing and all the other nefarious companies here use PATENTS to prevent competitors from eating their lunch. Patents need to be done away with to allow free competition, don't believe the propaganda about patents helping creators

If you don't have a patent on an invention then how do you protect it from people who will just steal what you have spent time/money creating?

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#575

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Depends a lot on the country you live in. In most European countries "carrying an ID" is legally required if the police stops you anyway (they do need a reason to see it though), so "show an ID at the entrance" is no big deal. It's to my understanding mainly the US where ID requirements are often side eyed because many people don't have them and there's no national standard (and due to a variety of political reasons…

What the hell kind of draconian country forces you to always have an id on you? What if I go running with only my watch on (I’ve regularly done this with no malicious intent)

In my home country (Hungary) it is mandatory if you leave your home more than 500 meters and as far as I know, most European countries have similar rules.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#576

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Depends a lot on the country you live in. In most European countries "carrying an ID" is legally required if the police stops you anyway (they do need a reason to see it though), so "show an ID at the entrance" is no big deal. It's to my understanding mainly the US where ID requirements are often side eyed because many people don't have them and there's no national standard (and due to a variety of political reasons…

What the hell kind of draconian country forces you to always have an id on you? What if I go running with only my watch on (I’ve regularly done this with no malicious intent)

Lots of nations require carrying some form of ID: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_identity_card...

In the US, permanent residents are required to carry their green card at all times.

Here's a description of the law for the Netherlands, where I live: https://www.government.nl/topics/identification-documents/co...

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#577

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends a lot on the country you live in. In most European countries "carrying an ID" is legally required if the police stops you anyway (they do need a reason to see it though), so "show an ID at the entrance" is no big deal. It's to my understanding mainly the US where ID requirements are often side eyed because many people don't have them and there's no national standard (and due to a variety of political reasons…

What the hell kind of draconian country forces you to always have an id on you? What if I go running with only my watch on (I’ve regularly done this with no malicious intent)

Papieren Bitte!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_identity_card...

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#578

I worked a summer job in a Ticketmaster box office ten years ago and had access to the whole of their UK customer database in order to print off ticket collections. I’d type in a customer’s post code and up came all of the data Ticketmaster held on them… including their password in plaintext.

I had to create an account just to reply to this; as much as TM has it's faults this is just false, it does not store passwords in any reversible way or at least hasn't for more than 2 years and all evidence removed.

Source: I am an engineer within TM that has worked on integration between various booking products in the UK market.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#579

I worked a summer job in a Ticketmaster box office ten years ago and had access to the whole of their UK customer database in order to print off ticket collections. I’d type in a customer’s post code and up came all of the data Ticketmaster held on them… including their password in plaintext.

I had to create an account just to reply to this; as much as TM has it's faults this is just false, it does not store passwords in any reversible way or at least hasn't for more than 2 years and all evidence removed. Source: I am an engineer within TM that has worked on integration between various booking products in the UK market.

Well there is an 8 year delta between your timeline and the OPs... so I don't see any contradictions here.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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...yet you have a phone (for the moving barcode and whatnot) which is heavier and bulkier than a card?

True. I feel it, it's locked without my face and I can track it.

Have a picture of your ID on your phone, like every other person has. Or bring a photocopy of your ID that you can throw away after entering.
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