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While you have a point, the golden rule is to shut down everything related to email and IM during meetings.
But you can't control what other people do. You can control what messages you send.
IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023
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Re: IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023
#572The need for competent IT will only increase, especially in the US. There are so many systems that need upgrades and improvements that it is scary. Some may say that AI will do this, but by the time AI is capable of doing this then all labor of any kind is deprecated as a concept and we'll have transitioned to a different type of economic system anyway. So don't be afraid, there's a lot of work coming. There are hund…
> There are so many systems that need upgrades and improvements that it is scary > There are hundreds of billions of lines of code that haven't been meaningfully upgraded or maintained and those systems are still profitable and useful and cool to work on Will putting additional effort and in turn paid man hours increase the profit margin?
I recently worked on a platform that still used Silverlight well after its deprecation. They needed to deprecate and then extricate that dependency. For a very long time, people would pursue features over this maintenance task since the maintenance wouldn't have increased revenue. However, eventually the very old dependency slowed down their ability to produce features that customers want and presented a security risk as well. These certainly will reduce profit margin...so a lot of the time, tech investment will be about not losing the profit margin that already exists, and biding time until new capabilities become available to add new features and decrease system costs.
Re: IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023
#573Earlier quoted context omitted.
While you have a point, the golden rule is to shut down everything related to email and IM during meetings.
But you can't control what other people do. You can control what messages you send.
Stop having such low expectations of grown ass adults.
Re: IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023
#574Every F500 company is Almost There on automating absolutely everything through ServiceNow and that's without AI being in the mix yet. There's always going to be a place for coders who can massage the API links between packages or run an ERP, but you don't need IT when your firm is disposable line staff, institutional knowledge lives in the codebase, and HR has mostly been replaced by Workday. UBI when?
Serious question: Why is the answer to firms automating everything "give me money for doing nothing" and not "get a different job?" Don't get me wrong I would love shorter work weeks, fewer hours a day, etc. for the same pay. That was the promise of all this additional productivity, after all. But even that is still getting paid for work. I just can't rationalize the idea of paying an entire population for nothing.
Re: IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023
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We even have an example of what a train wreck it is in Canada, with stagnant productivity, a housing bubble and overcrowded public services. But we're determined to make the exact same mistakes.
this is really annoying to read. go open the careers page for most mid-tier tech co’s (Coinbase, Rippling, Affirm) and count the number of SWE jobs in India/Latam/Eastern Europe vs the U.S. Say you get your wish of no immigration. How are you going to force these companies to not hire abroad instead? At least if the worker who competes with you is in the U.S., they have the same cost structure as you and won’t underc…
Re: IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023
#576Re: IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023
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Nope, because productivity is output divided by hours worked, so working longer can decrease productivity.
I think youre just using a different definition of productivity. Hourly is valid, but yearly is too.
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It's a FANG.
Thanks. If it's Google (and I suspect it is), what are they calling this employee development program and where can people apply?
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Well, you're going to the wrong bars!
Last weekend I got free beers for knowing the band on a bartender's shirt. We shot the shit about music while I waited for my friends. Made my day. Pubs started as "public houses". What's the point if you don't know the regulars? Why go out? Imagine Cheers with robo Ted Dansen. (Actually, that might be awesome, for very different reasons...)
Re: IT employment grew by just 700 jobs in 2023
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But you can't control what other people do. You can control what messages you send.
But you can expect people to do their jobs. If a notification embarrassed the company in front of a customer then talk to that person's manager about training them to not be a numpty. Stop having such low expectations of grown ass adults.
Forms filled out wrong after explicit instructions, vital information needed for a proposal due at 10 in the morning not received until 5pm the day before (and even then it's missing half of what they were told was needed), and then after asking for it again, finding out half an hour before it's due "oh I'm out running an errand, I'm not in the office, I can't get that to you", people taking pictures of handwritten notes in sloppy handwriting and sending them to other coworkers instead of typing them up themselves, people refusing to click a link on their iPads to access a document and demanding email attachments instead, people refusing to store important documents in CRM tools and instead saying "well it's in someone's email somewhere".
She's worked with several of these types before, but not this many people at one company, and not with such an intense workload (I think she was expected to submit a proposal every other day this month while wrangling these people, which is very short. At past jobs she usually only had to juggle 1 or 2 proposals in any given week).
She had no choice but to work holidays and nights and weekends and it still looked like she wasn't doing a good job because they weren't doing their jobs (her boss knew she was though, since she had to do the job before she was hired and knew what it was like, and begged her to stay).
I guarantee none of these people would have bothered turning off a notification, and then something confidential (legally not supposed to be seen by certain employees) could have been revealed.
Not that I ever usually bother to think about that myself, personally. It's rare that I start a conversation with someone with 'Hey blah! Here's some information that I can get in trouble if other people besides you see!'