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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by dingaling »

salad-tycoon wrote: post #387
badpun wrote: post #359

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> 3. Never in my life have I just stared at the speedometer. Why are you staring at it so much? Is something wrong? Without checking speedometer often, how do you know if you're not going above the speed limit?

Drive by feel, isn’t this something everyone develops? You start to notice how fast things move outside the windows like trees, poles, lane lines. Admittedly, if stressed or excited then I tend to go a little faster but I check the speedometer then. Also I drive ICE and can hear/feel the engine. Guess that would be different in a Tesla. Anyways, generally plenty of feedback to observe without needing to glue your eye…

> Drive by feel, isn’t this something everyone develops?

To a degree, but not to the finesse of 10% + 2mph which is the threshold of prosecution in the UK, for example.

Can you tell 20 from 24mph, or 30 from 35mph, without looking?

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Post by dingaling »

zdragnar wrote: post #435
Der_Einzige wrote: post #315

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We don't like "getting used to" going back in history. Where the f*ck is a HUD in a tesla? That's exactly the kind of car which should be getting cool space-age tech like that. Elon already went on twitter and said no HUD ever and disparaged people asking for it. Why did another comment saying basically the same thing get mass downvoted and killed? HUDs are some of the coolest features in cars and tesla refusing to i…

I've seen a HUD in a non-Tesla car and it was a gimmick at best. At worst, it obscures part of your vision. It also causes more eye strain to use, because there's movement in the background compared to a dashboard.

HUD symbology is focused at infinity, so there's no 'background'. The symbols and the real world are at the same hyperfocal point.

Fighter pilots have been using HUDs for 70 years and in the past 20 years they have become common in airliners as they hugely improve safety in low-visibility operations.

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Post by dingaling »

Max-q wrote: post #296
janoc wrote: post #234

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You forgot the very "unimportant" detail which was that electric cars in Norway were zero VAT and tax for electric cars until this year (normal VAT is 25%). Well, gee, no wonder that people were buying them left and right when the tax discount was about 16-20k NOK per car on average! And that is just buying the car - Norway subsidizes electric mobility in many other ways so even today registering a new electric is ch…

This does not, however, change the fact that it became one of the first mass markeds in the world for electric cars, where Tesla has kept the lead even when all the legacy auto companies are selling electric cars. The Model Y is the most sold var model in Norway in 2023, outselling the number two, VW ID4 by 3-4 times. Model Y is the most sold car model in the world in 2023.

> Model Y is the most sold car model in the world in 2023.

Not quite, the Toyota Corolla and RAV-4 both outsold it

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Post by jjav »

mattmaroon wrote: post #286
dgellow wrote: post #241

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How is Tesla still considered a startup? It’s a 20 years old company with a 80billion valuation and more than 100k employees Edit: I even missed a zero, it has a 800billion valuation

I guess because most of their competitors are 100 yrs old? Making cars is really, really hard. Tesla’s first mass produced car was only ten years ago, and their top two models 6 and 3 years ago. The average age of their entire fleet is in the low single digits. In the car world that’s just getting started.

> Making cars is really, really hard.

There's a HN meme of sorts that goes like "I can build that same website functionality in a weekend, why does company XYZ employ 5000 people to do it?!"

It's a recurring theme because there's some truth to it. Someone can indeed build the core functionality of that website in a weekend, if they ignore 99% of the difficult work of doing it in production and supporting customers and all the rest of the mundane but important parts.

Building a car isn't that hard really. Lots of people do one-off car build in their garage with basic tools and a shoestring budget. And they can build a fun car which works! Sure, it's not maintainable nor supportable but they built it and it works great.

So while Tesla is well past the guy in a garage stage, they are still at the stage of "building cars is really easy" (if you ignore all the maintainability and supportability and long tail of parts availability and everything else that established manufacturers know how to do).

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Post by prmoustache »

rvba wrote: post #440
prmoustache wrote: post #71

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Aren't everybody using android auto (or its Apple equivalent) these days anyway? The builtin infotainment system is usually just a second thought that exist just to showcase something in the showroom and setup android auto at first use.

Will android auto even work wireless? Any bigger bump and it stops working, so I jut put my phone in a plastic handle that is attached to the window with a suction cup..

I don't know, GPS navigation is typically the kind of situation where I would want to keep my smartphone plugged to charge anyway. I is the biggest power sucking usage of a smartphone imho.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by jjav »

light_hue_1 wrote: post #269
kossTKR wrote: post #261

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To me teslas are still annoying and dangerous because of a bunch of small things last time i rented one, like buying a great computer, but the screen colours are inverted: 1) No buttons but shit quality touch "areas in places you have to guess" on steering wheel, is straight up dangerous, and incredibly annoying because you can't "get a feel" for anything you have to do, ie. turn lights, wipers etc. 2) No other knobs…

This is like reading a review of an iphone from an older dedicated blackberry user. It can take a bit to get used to advances in technology. The Tesla UI is the best car UI I've ever used. By far. I would never want to go back. 1. There's zero guessing. The steering wheel touch zones are very nicely marked by bumps. I have never put my finger in the wrong spot. 2. You can configure the steering wheel buttons to do so…

> advances in technology

No. Changes in technology.

Sometimes changes are for the worse.

Just because something changed does not mean it is better.

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Post by hef19898 »

flutas wrote: post #563
hef19898 wrote: post #561

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E.g. in Teslas user manual for the Model 3: swap tire every 10,000 km. And in other comments the last times the same question was discussed. Indirectly in the high number of inspection failures due to suspension issues.

Again, just like every car company ever says? Check the links above. Everyone recommends rotating your tires every 5-10k miles.

Required =|= Recommended

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Post by lawn »

Geisterde wrote: post #464
lawn wrote: post #454

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That's not the same at all. No shoe is created to automatically walk and avoid sharp objects.

Yea neither are teslas, read the fine print.

Love it. Yet another cop out.

But it's all in Teslas style, they've been blaming user error for known design flaws as well and have forced unsuspecting customers to pay for that.

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Post by tristor »

zdragnar wrote: post #435
Der_Einzige wrote: post #315

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We don't like "getting used to" going back in history. Where the f*ck is a HUD in a tesla? That's exactly the kind of car which should be getting cool space-age tech like that. Elon already went on twitter and said no HUD ever and disparaged people asking for it. Why did another comment saying basically the same thing get mass downvoted and killed? HUDs are some of the coolest features in cars and tesla refusing to i…

I've seen a HUD in a non-Tesla car and it was a gimmick at best. At worst, it obscures part of your vision. It also causes more eye strain to use, because there's movement in the background compared to a dashboard.

You’re just straight out incorrect. The HUD doesn’t obscure vision, and if adjusted correctly for position allows you to keep your eyes closer to the horizon while maintaining awareness of important information.

It’s the best thing about my new car and I can’t imagine buying something, other than a track beater, without it in the future.

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Post by tomatocracy »

ben_w wrote: post #27
AdrianB1 wrote: post #25

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The regular inspection for ICE vehicles is centered around oil changes, air filter change (engine, not cabin), valve checks and distribution chain/belt changes. Everything else, from brake pads (wear sensors entered the chat), tires (life varies a lot, from 10k km to over 40k km for cars), windshield wipers (no determined lifetime, change it when it breaks) to brake fluid (recommended to change every 3 years) are don…

How much does this vary by jurisdiction? I remember the UK has the "MOT test" which I think does rather more than that, but that's just the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOT_test

Yes, this is the case in most European jurisdictions. UK mandates inspections once per year (starting 3 years after manufacture). There also appears to be a 2014 EU directive (2014/45) that mandates periodic inspections of most cars across EU states at least every 2 years (starting at most 4 years after manufacture).
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