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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Satya and Sam committed securities fraud with their late Sunday “funding secured” ploy to protect the MSFT stock price. This was the obvious outcome. Sam had no intentions of actually going through with that and Satya was in no position to unilaterally commit to the type of funding that he was implying.

They lied to protect the stock. That should be illegal. In fact, it is illegal.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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"A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations says that the sole job of this initial board is to vet and appoint a new formal board of up to 9 people that will reset the governance of OpenAl. Microsoft will likely have a seat on that expanded board, as will Altman himself." https://twitter.com/teddyschleifer/status/172721237871736880...

So basically, the outcome of this drama is that Microsoft gets more power without having to invest anything?

This is my take too, and I'm sure in the shadows their plan is to close off the APIs as much as possible and try use it for their own gain, not dissimilar to how Google deploy AI.

There is no way MS is going to let something like ChatGPT-5 build better software products than what they have for sale.

This is an assassination and I think Ilya and Co know it.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…

In this case the fate of OpenAI was in fact heavily controlled by its employees. They voted with their employment. Microsoft gave them an assured optional destination.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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"A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations says that the sole job of this initial board is to vet and appoint a new formal board of up to 9 people that will reset the governance of OpenAl. Microsoft will likely have a seat on that expanded board, as will Altman himself." https://twitter.com/teddyschleifer/status/172721237871736880...

they should give two votes to GPT-5

what is the prompt?

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Satya and Sam committed securities fraud with their late Sunday “funding secured” ploy to protect the MSFT stock price. This was the obvious outcome. Sam had no intentions of actually going through with that and Satya was in no position to unilaterally commit to the type of funding that he was implying. They lied to protect the stock. That should be illegal. In fact, it is illegal.

I don't think this is actionable in anyway, even if what you say was shown unequivocally to be true.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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I find it interesting that for all the talk from OpenAI staff that it was all about the people, and from Satya that MS has all the rights and knowledge and can jumpstart their own branch at the turn of a dime, it seems getting control of OpenAI proper was a huge priority.

Given that Claude sucks so bad, and this week’s events, I’m guessing that the ChatGPT secret sauce is not as replicable as some might suggest.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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post #111

"A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations says that the sole job of this initial board is to vet and appoint a new formal board of up to 9 people that will reset the governance of OpenAl. Microsoft will likely have a seat on that expanded board, as will Altman himself." https://twitter.com/teddyschleifer/status/172721237871736880...

9 mortal men? Look out for the one ring to rule them all…

Who is Gollum in this cut?

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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At the end of the day, we still don't know what exactly happened and probably, never will. However, it seems clear there was a rift between Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles (Team Helen/Ilya). I think the tensions were brewing for quite a while, as it's evident from an article written even before GPT-3 [1]. > Over time, it has allowed a fierce competitiveness and mounting pressu…

I am still a bit puzzled that it is so easy to turn a non-profit into a for profit company. I am sure everything they did is legal, but it feels like it shouldn't be. Could Médecins Sans Frontières take in donations and then take that money to start a for profit hospital for plastics surgery? And the profits wouldn't even go back to MSF, but instead somehow private investors will get the profits. The whole construct…

Not sure if you're asking a serious question about MSF but it's interesting anyways - when these types of orgs are fundraising for a specific campaign, say Darfur, then they can NOT use that money for any other campaign, say for ex Turkey earthquake.

That's why they'll sometimes tell you to stop donating. That's here in EU at least (source is a relative who volunteers for such an org).

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…

>Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either.

The OpenAI employees overwhelmingly rejected the groupthink of the Effective Altruism cult.

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