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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by papito »

redox99 wrote: post #109
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #28

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

May I suggest 8chan? Almost no moderation at all, but make sure you have a gallon of Clorox by your desk because you will want to pour that into your eyes.

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Post by paxys »

tmpz22 wrote: post #413

Can we please recognize that this is a holiday weekend and Elon rammed a big release forcing his engineers to come in and iterate multiple patches over the last 12 hours.

Twitter Engineers have had over a year to get out and find another job. At this point the terms of their employment and the expectations from their boss are all crystal clear. Hard to sympathize with those who continue to stick around for whatever reason.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by ProjectArcturis »

hgsgm wrote: post #562
epistasis wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing about having leadership that is known to lie about anything or everything, for any sort of imagined personal gain, is that the very concept of truth is destroyed. I agree that this is probably not the bug at the root of it all. But I also don't believe the story that Musk is selling for why he's in effect shutting down the site. But both could be true and I'm still thinking about other potential reasons, a…

George Costanza said "it's not a lie of you believe it." Is it a lie if you don't know or even care if it's true or what it means? That's where we are with Elon Musk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit

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Post by takeda »

felipelemos wrote: post #264
shon wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to disagree. If you honestly take the emotion and politics out of this and evaluate on merit alone, what do you think? Twitter wasn’t healthy before Musk bought it. It wasn’t a thriving business, it was a very old, very large startup still struggling to find market fit and loosing a lot of money. Also, it wasn’t a thriving product. It was stagnant. Since Twitter was purchased, the amount of features they have…

> [...] it was a very old, very large startup [...] Can we start to call companies with almost 18 years old just "companies" and not startup anymore?

I'm starting to think today the word startup means a non profitable company that only exist, because interest rates are low and investors don't have any better options than invest into them.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by bandyaboot »

humean1 wrote: post #542
martincmartin wrote: post #373

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The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left. My guess is Elon said "the site's too slow!" Engineers noticed that the home feed request was slow. They didn't understand how it worked, had no tools to profile it, and were given an unrealistic deadline to fix it. So about the only thing they could do was issue multiple, parallel requests and hope that at leas…

> The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left And never created sufficient testing.

Yes, because Elon Musk would never scrap existing pre-release testing procedures.

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Post by DonHopkins »

Sparyjerry wrote: post #285
Mizoguchi wrote: post #17

This kind of stuff is unavoidable with what's going on at Twitter. Infrastructure changes, platform changes and mass layoffs all at once. I'm actually impressed they haven't experienced more and longer outages.

True, the rate of improvements has been insane. I use it pretty often and haven't even noticed a second of unavailability even today and right now, not to say I use it 24/7 though. It's pretty obvious some people have a political bend to their hatred of Twitter so any second something isn't perfect they jump on it. It's really a sad state of affairs really.

As if your delusional denial of reality wasn't totally political.

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Post by yawaramin »

williamsmj wrote: post #543
walrus01 wrote: post #437

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> The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left. This is like a case study in what happens when you fire everyone except the sycophants and yes-men. I only feel sorry for remaining non-yes-men twitter employees who might still be there because for whatever personal reasons they're in a precarious economic situation where they can't quit (H1B?) or are tied to…

> This is like a case study in what happens when you fire everyone except the sycophants and yes-men. The initial and biggest waves of layoffs last year were of people who hadn’t yet had a chance to demonstrate whether they were or were not sycophants. They were essentially random.

'Random layoffs'--sounds like a model of great management!

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by andsoitis »

tadfisher wrote: post #515
andsoitis wrote: post #507

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> The people at Twitter who understood the system and could predict the side effects were all fired or left. Are you saying the engineers who are now at Twitter don’t have the right skills?

That's a non-sequitir. You can be at the top of your field and not completely understand a complex system. Also, the right people may not have even been involved in the implementation of this "feature".

> You can be at the top of your field and not completely understand a complex system.

The tweet reads: "Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to itself to try and fetch content that never arrives because Elon's latest genius innovation is to block people from being able to read Twitter without logging in."

Does that strike you as complex? I mean, surely they had the context (need to log in) because it was all over the news

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Post by buitreVirtual »

paxys wrote: post #572
tmpz22 wrote: post #413

Can we please recognize that this is a holiday weekend and Elon rammed a big release forcing his engineers to come in and iterate multiple patches over the last 12 hours.

Twitter Engineers have had over a year to get out and find another job. At this point the terms of their employment and the expectations from their boss are all crystal clear. Hard to sympathize with those who continue to stick around for whatever reason.

In this job market, it's hard. And many engineers are on H1B visas so it's even harder to jump ship.

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Post by yawaramin »

7thaccount wrote: post #257
Waterluvian wrote: post #178

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At least once have I done a CC blast as a form of insurance when being asked to do something absolutely boneheaded.

You gotta get executives in writing sometimes or they'll throw you under the bus later.

> or they'll throw you under the bus

and they'll throw you under the bus

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