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Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by johnnyanmac »

dmix wrote: post #502
FireBeyond wrote: post #438

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What business value did editing users comments out from under them? Still happened, though.

I’m not sure how that’s relevant to my question. He was drunk and being an idiot, that wasn’t a major management decision like disallowing deletion of comments which affects the entire platform. That would be unprecedented in the history of social media to only allow permanent comments. Im also very skeptical comment deletion is happening at such a scale to be meaningful vs the billion new comments they get a year. T…

Sure, when the CEO does it it's an excuse, and when I do it I get written up by HR.

>Im also very skeptical comment deletion is happening at such a scale to be meaningful vs the billion new comments they get a year.

I don't think GDPR cares about scale so much as compliance. Scale just affects the fine.

>This all smacks of low quality speculation thats mostly a consequence of the current outrage cycle of the week.

Sure, I don't disagree. As long as we agree we are both dabbling in speculation. could be an honest mistake, could be the next phase of panic from a sight that is flailing about to keep its valuation from dropping further. I won't claim any authority on the topic.

I do find it entertaining how thoroughly they are stumbling over this tho. And we still have over a week until the real action.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by johnnyanmac »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #556
Paul-Craft wrote: post #546

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We'll see about that the minute someone makes a GDPR request to delete their stuff.

Does HN have to care about a GDPR request? HN doesn't have either servers or people in Europe, so far as I know. Even so, that still may not save you. Say you decide you want your post here deleted. Say HN does so, but leaves my reply. And say my reply looks like this: > We'll see about that the minute someone makes a GDPR request to delete their stuff. Well, Paul-Craft, I don't think it's going to work like that...…

>Now you cannot delete all traces of your post without editing mine.

gdpr =/= right to be forgotten (I'm not even sure if the latter cares about that. That's more about search indexing than perfectly scrubbing your history). GDPR is there to ensure your data can't be stored indefinitely on some private server without your ability to withdraw it.

Paul-Craft being quoted saying something that one time on June 17th 2023 is 100x less valuable to a data harvester then a directly post from Paul-Craft himself.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by johnnyanmac »

b0afc375b5 wrote: post #172
293984j29384 wrote: post #22

I can confirm a comment I made in r/vmware has been restored. I typically delete my comments after 24 hours. I have a single comment from 20 days ago that was previously deleted now back on my profile.

Interesting. If it's alright to ask, why do you have this policy? In my case I never delete my posts/comments and always edit with a big "EDIT" disclosure.

my reddit account was deleted years ago, and I wasn't that strict. But the big thing that lead to me deleting and creating new accounts was basically mass taggers.

Long long story short, I probably made some comment on some apparently "bad" forum years ago (let's say, 2012). And hell, I was dwnvoted vehemently and was arguing a storm against it. But because those mass taggers just care about where you post, and not what you post, I was labeled as a bigot. No big deal. Years later (maybe 2015) I deleted most of my older comments anyway as some transition phase as I left college.

Then in 2018 or so some person called me that specific bigoted phrase. Remember, this would be 3 years ago, and I commented heavily. No way any human on a video game subreddit cared enough about me to dig through 3 years of comment history (which by then would be mostly video games and anime) to find comments they disagreed with. Especially when those comments don't exist on my profile. I was clearly mass tagged and someone wanted an easy insult.

So I just threw that all away. grabbed the saved posts I cared about, deleted some 6 year old account and restarted in a new handle. I didn't want to bother with any future drama that was already well behind me. Because reddit doesn't care if my account is 6 days old or 6 years old; there's no difference. Why bother trying to redeem some crude handle I made up on the spot in the beginning of college?

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TLDR there are very annoying redditors who will troll histories and tag you without context and I was tired of dealing with that.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by johnnyanmac »

mfcl wrote: post #313
randomdata wrote: post #282

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Wherein lies the value of seeing that others read your work? As the saying goes, work is done for those who pay for it. When I, like you, write comments on sites like these I am the one paying for it. I derive entertainment value for the cost I am sinking, so I find it to be an acceptable trade, but beyond that small window the entertainment is over and the value of what was produced is gone. To keep it around beyond…

So, you'd delete your old comments because you would rather no one in the world get any kind of value from them since you are not getting any anymore?

>you would rather no one in the world get any kind of value from them since you are not getting any anymore?

I'd rather not get harrased from old comments in arguments I long forgotten about. Because some redditors will stalk you that persistently. I just don't want to bother to begin with.

If that cost some useful advice, I apologize. Rotten apples and all that.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by johnnyanmac »

Eisenstein wrote: post #489
randomdata wrote: post #478

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I said nothing of money? Although, of course, what you say about money is true. In fact, I can see from my not deleted HN history that I wrote that money is just an IOU only three days ago. I guess there is some value in being able to look back on my work! But is it value enough? Human nature is to be transactional. If I offer you my time to write a comment for you, I am going to expect something in return. That in r…

Do you find this attitude makes your life more pleasant, or does it make it that when people at a social event find out you are on the way to join them, they sigh silently and look at the ground and make a wish that you would have gotten over your reductive, sophomoric, and joyless 'everything is a transaction' philosophy because it makes you tedious?

>does it make it that when people at a social event find out you are on the way to join them, they sigh silently and look at the ground

you're not making the best case yourself. You'd be the person coming that the host would spend half the party trying to separate from certain others becuase you'll just get into a huge fight over a bike shed and ruin the night for every.

A person on the internet deletes their comments. It's not that deep.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by ted_bunny »

firecall wrote: post #538
b0afc375b5 wrote: post #172

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Interesting. If it's alright to ask, why do you have this policy? In my case I never delete my posts/comments and always edit with a big "EDIT" disclosure.

I do something similar. I switched my outlook on life a while back. I take somewhat Buddhist Lite approach to life and consider possessions as misery and so on. I extend that to online conversations. I just delete them and clear my history. I don’t feel everything I’ve ever written online, every message and every email should live online forever. It’s a mental burden that I don’t want. So I auto delete where I can. I…

It's all a Zen Garden, baby!

Folks, close your tabs. Close them all. Don't even check if they're important. They're not.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by throwaway742 »

Glench wrote: post #569
OrangeMusic wrote: post #568

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Unfortunately this doesn't work to delete the messages that have been restored, because they don't appear in /comments" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://old.reddit.com/user/ /comments . Other deletion tools I've tried also don't work because of this.

Hm, can you give an example?

https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=36366059

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by rekoil »

nanidin wrote: post #513
ajdude wrote: post #456

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A couple years ago I came across a deleted Reddit comment[1] and I wished that I could read it so badly I messaged the op and asked him what he said. He didn't remember, and I was hoping so badly it would've been restored after I read this news. Alas, it wasn't. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/avoidchineseproducts/comments/eh80f...

comment source: I believe KitchenAid stand mixers [assembled in America](https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0qKp-0h9P18), and the parts (edit: excepting the motor) do not appear to be sourced from China.\n\nHave a look around your local Ikea; a lot of their stuff, especially kitchen tools, are from Europe, Taiwan, etc, and not China. They label the source of all their stuff, so you can avoid stuff from China.\n\nZoji…

Where did you find that?

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by nanidin »

rekoil wrote: post #578
nanidin wrote: post #513

Earlier quoted context omitted.

comment source: I believe KitchenAid stand mixers [assembled in America](https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0qKp-0h9P18), and the parts (edit: excepting the motor) do not appear to be sourced from China.\n\nHave a look around your local Ikea; a lot of their stuff, especially kitchen tools, are from Europe, Taiwan, etc, and not China. They label the source of all their stuff, so you can avoid stuff from China.\n\nZoji…

Where did you find that?

I took the comment id from the url and looked it up in the pushshift data dumps.
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