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The gaze tracking is process isolated. Only when you tap is that location ever communicated to the application process — so they had to build a UI API that supports configurable hover behaviour where that hover behaviour is never readable by developers They've thought through the accessibility features, how VoiceOver works with the headset, dynamic type sizes, etc. Designing this sort of consistent API across a whole…
I didn't actually watch the Disney part. I saw the dad "working" in what seemed like a kitchen? Can't remember. The shallow interaction with the kids, though, gave me cringes. Then there is the juxtaposition of, "this let's you present as if there" with the, "of course you have to fly places to be with people, so when you do, zone out like a champ" Of course, zoning out better not need you to interact much, as hearin…
It's described in the Keynote. This is the exact quote:
"For example, where you look is very personal. It can give away something about what you're thinking. In Apple Vision Pro, where you look stays private. Eye input is isolated to a separate background process, so apps and websites can't see where you are looking. Only when you tap your fingers do results get communicated, just like a mouse click or tap on other Apple devices."
I can't speak to whether extra controllers are a good idea for Apple. From the impressions I have watched and read from VR enthusiasts (e.g, Norm from Tested) they have very high praise for the input and UI. I agree with you, however. I don't think typical VR games will be big on this device
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Watch Marques Brownlee's video on it. It's vastly better than anything before it in both hand- and eye-tracking.
i feel like brownlee is an apple "shill" or at least he knows not to say anything critical - it's business.
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The power in the headset makes it sound like it replaces your laptop. So for $3,500 I get a new laptop plus a 100 inch screen. To buy those separately would be far more than $3,500. In my case I plan to buy it on day one because I want it for working. I'm tired of having to choose enjoying the nice weather outside while using a tiny 15 inch laptop screen or being inside at my desk with my 3 32" screens. With Apple Vi…
I kinda doubt it would be comfortable to wear it for 8+ hours... I can't use Quest 2 for more than 30 minutes at a time: sweating, eye strain, etc.
They're gunning directly for work/productivity use, because of or despite what they've learned about how people feel using it. Either thinking people will use it for a couple of hours with occasional breaks (lunch, etc) or the nausea and so on are less of an issue.
This is a massive investment/bet, so presumably they know what they're doing.
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I think you get two 1.5" screens with half the resolution of my 34" monitor. If your 3 32 inch screens are running collectively at 2.1k bits, they must be pretty old. Why not just keep them? They're fully depreciated. And it runs an entirely new OS, so I have to buy apps for it again. Or cope with VisionSafari being slightly different than desktop safari and wait for Adobe to support it. When I want to go outside, I…
> What can you do with this thing that you can't do with a laptop, phone or desktop computer? Be fully productive no matter where I go. Have the same screen setup no matter where I go, so my muscle memory applies no matter where I am.
I'd like to see a tag on every Vision Pro commenter noting whether they typically use multiple displays or not. Might help understand from where they're approaching the discussion.
If Apple can bend the OS to cover more and more of the average work needs, they'll make in-roads fast.
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Apple's problem is that the "pro" version is not just twice as expensive as the "consumer" version needs to be in order to be a market success, it's ten times more expensive than the consumer version needs to be. edit: the fanatics are really out with the downvotes today
That's not Apple's problem, that's the budget conscious consumer's problem
If they were making a Quest 2 replacement, fine, talk about $500 pricepoints. If they can deliver a MacBook Pro replacement, then $2k+ is the ballpark.
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I found it odd that they started out with Pro. I think “Apple Vision” would have sufficed. Leaves room for the future to add “Pro” when they go to 8K/Retina or whatever. Plus just saying “Apple Vision” is kinda nice.
When Apple wants a mainstream product, they'll release one at a mainstream (for them) price. Right now they can't sell a non-pro for probably less than $2k, so why not just sell the pro at 3.5k and use the insights from that to create a real mainstream (but high end) non-pro with better chips/software etc next year?
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Yes, a non-Pro version is arriving later.
What will the non-Pro version not have, compared to the Pro?
If they swap metal for plastic, the cheaper version would become lighter and that would be a selling point. They can't go with lower-resolution screens. Poorer quality headband would make the thing uncomfortable to wear.
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Yeah, if this thing catches on, I think this will be my "old man gets left behind by technology" moment. Everything I see from the marketing of this just looks like a soulless dystopia. I hate it. If the future is strapping a phone to your face and never leaving the house, I'm ready to be left in the past.
You're going to lose days at a time in the retirement home to VR tiktok and VR candy crush.
All these "relive your memory" videos are incredibly awkward, because of how downright sad it is to strap this on your head during your kid's birthday just to relive it on repeat like Tom Cruise in Minority Report. The real usecase is porn, but they're too tactful to say it.
Yeah, if this thing catches on, I think this will be my "old man gets left behind by technology" moment. Everything I see from the marketing of this just looks like a soulless dystopia. I hate it. If the future is strapping a phone to your face and never leaving the house, I'm ready to be left in the past.