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Google “We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI”

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Re: Google “We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI”

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I am amazed that people haven't gotten used to these "internal Google doc leaks".

This is just the opinion of some random googler, one among over 100,000.

For some reason random googlers seem like to write random docs on hot topics and share it widely across the company. And someone, among those over 100,000 googlers, ends up "leaking" the opinion of that person to outside Google.

This is more like a blog post of some random dude over the Internet expressing his opinion. The fact that random dude ended up working at Google should not bear much on evaluating the claims in the doc.

A website published that with a title "Google ..." is misleading. The accurate title would be "Some random googler: ..."

Re: Google “We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI”

#573

I am amazed that people haven't gotten used to these "internal Google doc leaks". This is just the opinion of some random googler, one among over 100,000. For some reason random googlers seem like to write random docs on hot topics and share it widely across the company. And someone, among those over 100,000 googlers, ends up "leaking" the opinion of that person to outside Google. This is more like a blog post of som…

According to the article, it's a random AI researcher at Google, so fairly relevant.

Re: Google “We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI”

#574

This reads like a very research-oriented point of view, and a very myopic one at that. The knowledge and the infra needed to serve these huge models to billions of users reliably seems to me to be a pretty serious moat here that no current open source project can compete with. Coming up with ideas and training new models is one thing, actually serving those models at scale efficiently and monetizing it at the same ti…

> The knowledge and the infra needed to serve these huge models to billions of users reliably seems to me to be a pretty serious moat here that no current open source project can compete with.

I don't quite follow this line of argument. Let's say there's an open-source ML model X with a permissive licence. I think it's not super relevant whether whoever came up with the model graph & weights for X knows how to serve it at scale, as long as someone does. And it seems pretty clear that it's not just Google (and OpenAI) who know how to do this.

Separately, I'm personally more excited about the possibility of running these models on-device rather than at scale in the cloud (for privacy and other reasons).

Re: Google “We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI”

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post #573

I am amazed that people haven't gotten used to these "internal Google doc leaks". This is just the opinion of some random googler, one among over 100,000. For some reason random googlers seem like to write random docs on hot topics and share it widely across the company. And someone, among those over 100,000 googlers, ends up "leaking" the opinion of that person to outside Google. This is more like a blog post of som…

According to the article, it's a random AI researcher at Google, so fairly relevant.

Google has thousands of so called AI/ML "researchers".

The author has ZERO publications in top AI/ML conferences.

Re: Google “We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI”

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post #573

I am amazed that people haven't gotten used to these "internal Google doc leaks". This is just the opinion of some random googler, one among over 100,000. For some reason random googlers seem like to write random docs on hot topics and share it widely across the company. And someone, among those over 100,000 googlers, ends up "leaking" the opinion of that person to outside Google. This is more like a blog post of som…

According to the article, it's a random AI researcher at Google, so fairly relevant.

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Re: Google “We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI”

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post #573

I am amazed that people haven't gotten used to these "internal Google doc leaks". This is just the opinion of some random googler, one among over 100,000. For some reason random googlers seem like to write random docs on hot topics and share it widely across the company. And someone, among those over 100,000 googlers, ends up "leaking" the opinion of that person to outside Google. This is more like a blog post of som…

According to the article, it's a random AI researcher at Google, so fairly relevant.

People are appealing to some kind of "authority" regarding these opinion docs from random dudes working at Google where if they knew the dude's name rather than the fact that they work at Google they would not.

Re: Google “We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI”

#578
In my bachelor degree graduation thesis I investigated the level of democratization of AI by attempting to do a text summarizer using AWS-LSTM and transfer learning. The conclusion then was that there is no feasible way for a private person on an average "gamer" budget.

I predicted this might change within 2-3 years, looks like I were off by 1 year.

Re: Google “We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI”

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post #573

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the article, it's a random AI researcher at Google, so fairly relevant.

People are appealing to some kind of "authority" regarding these opinion docs from random dudes working at Google where if they knew the dude's name rather than the fact that they work at Google they would not.

You don't think a Google AI researcher is in a good position to comment on how Google is affected by recent developments in AI? I mean, yeah, it's an opinion, but it's not just anyone's opinion.

Re: Google “We have no moat, and neither does OpenAI”

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post #573

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to the article, it's a random AI researcher at Google, so fairly relevant.

Google has thousands of so called AI/ML "researchers". The author has ZERO publications in top AI/ML conferences.

You know who wrote this?
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