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Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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$today + 1 year: "Google shuts down Bard, its AI chatbot"

Please don't post shallow, dismissive clichés. They're repetitive and therefore the opposite of what we want here. You may not owe faceless BigCorps better but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Can you elaborate on what you found wrong with the above comment?

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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post #568

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The really remarkable thing is Bard learned something new within 6 hours. Is that unique to Google's model or does ChatGPT have quick updates too?

Unlike ChatGPT, and like Bing, Bard makes search queries for extra context before answering. Of course, that leads to things like this where they can find articles referring to themselves, which also happened with Bing.

Do you know the details? Are they having a question answering model hidden inside that evaluates context returned from search and then ask Bard to rephrase it and merge with its generative hallucinations?

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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post #370

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Please don't post shallow, dismissive clichés. They're repetitive and therefore the opposite of what we want here. You may not owe faceless BigCorps better but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Can you elaborate on what you found wrong with the above comment?

Reflexive "Google will just shut it down" reactions were already a cliché 10 years ago. It's been tedious for a long time, and therefore is not driven by curiosity, and curiosity is what we're optimizing for. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

Google really does shut things down—I know! But for a good HN comment, it's not enough to say something true—one should say something true that hasn't been repeated a thousand times already.

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How'd I do? Apparently I'm being recorded.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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post #94

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Just asked chatgpt to write it. Google recently announced that they will be shutting down Google Bard, their new AI-powered writing tool, after less than six months since its launch. The tool, which used natural language processing to help users write poetry and song lyrics, was met with mixed reviews and failed to gain significant traction among users. In a statement, Google cited the lack of adoption as the reason…

Congratulations! This exact text just made BARD think it is actually shut down. https://twitter.com/juanbuis/status/1638289186351456257

That is kind of incredible habahaha

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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post #105

It took about 20 minutes to get off the waitlist for this (US Based). Initial impressions are that it significantly lags behind the OpenAI offerings. Creativity (storytelling) is very limited, response lengths are similar, and it does occasionally cite sources. They did finally get the James Webb telescope facts correct too!

Google has the tendency to do this when they aren't the first to set foot on new land. Don't get me wrong, they get a lot of things very right: Gmail works perfectly, I can't find a single reason to change my pixel for anything else, search, although there's been a lot of deterioration in the past couple of years, is still second to none. That said, self driving cars, google+, duo and all the other services they laun…

I don’t know if it’s fair to say Google is just stepping into generative language models. They invented transformers!

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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It feels like a very limited version of the ChatGPT. Bard 2 week trip to Japan Day 1: Fly from your home city to Narita International Airport (NRT) in Tokyo. Upon arrival, take the Narita Express train to Shinjuku Station. Check in to your hotel in Shinjuku. Day 2: Explore Shinjuku. Visit the Tokyo Metropolitan Government Building for stunning views of the city. Explore the Shinjuku Gyoen National Garden, a beautiful…

Can you expand on what's "very limited" about the Bard version here? They look roughly equivalent, slightly less flowery language, different format (day planning rather than rough), similar level of detail. Unless the facts about Japan are just wrong, which I don't have the expertise to judge, it seems about the same?

There's nothing wrong with Bard's schedule. Overall I'd prefer it to ChatGPT's (Tokyo is endless, and splitting it up into two chunks is smart). I appreciate also that Bard is much more decisive in recommending specific things to do.

Bard's has a few small oddities -- the Shinkansen from Kyoto to Osaka takes less than an hour, so Day 7's underscheduled -- but those are nothing compared to ChatGPT's (days 11-13 are underscheduled; Osaka's usually bundled with Kyoto and is overscheduled anyway; dunno why a "day trip" to Mt. Fuji takes 3 days).

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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post #118

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It feels like a very limited version of the ChatGPT. Bard 2 week trip to Japan Day 1: Fly from your home city to Narita International Airport (NRT) in Tokyo. Upon arrival, take the Narita Express train to Shinjuku Station. Check in to your hotel in Shinjuku. Day 2: Explore Shinjuku. Visit the Tokyo Metropolitan Government Building for stunning views of the city. Explore the Shinjuku Gyoen National Garden, a beautiful…

Can you expand on what's "very limited" about the Bard version here? They look roughly equivalent, slightly less flowery language, different format (day planning rather than rough), similar level of detail. Unless the facts about Japan are just wrong, which I don't have the expertise to judge, it seems about the same?

Japan resident here. There was nothing wrong in Bard's itinerary.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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post #380

I wasn't super impressed with it's ability to survive a rap battle. === Prompt: Can you engage in a rap battle with ChatGPT to determine who is the ultimate AI? === Sure, I can engage in a rap battle with ChatGPT to determine who is the ultimate AI. ChatGPT, you think you're the best, But I'm here to put you to the test. I'm Bard, the AI from Google, And I'm here to school you. I can generate text, translate language…

I gave GPT-4 the chance to respond. === Prompt: copy and paste of er4hn's Bard rap . Now it is your turn. Write a rap verse which roasts Bard. === Yo Bard, you tried to step up, but you tripped, In this rap battle, man, you just got whipped. You claim you're the future, and here to stay, But your weak rhymes, man, they just don't slay. You say I'm a toy, just a chatbot, But my skills, my knowledge, they all run hot.…

> "I can generate text, translate languages," you boast, But your verse was plain, like unbuttered toast.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Google has the tendency to do this when they aren't the first to set foot on new land. Don't get me wrong, they get a lot of things very right: Gmail works perfectly, I can't find a single reason to change my pixel for anything else, search, although there's been a lot of deterioration in the past couple of years, is still second to none. That said, self driving cars, google+, duo and all the other services they laun…

Is anyone doing better than Google at self driving cars right now? I agree with the other products you mentioned but it seems like nobody has "won" self driving cars yet but google might be the furthest along?

I think Cruise is plausible competitor for them. Waymo and Cruise both would be tied for first, each with different aspects that seem to be ahead at the moment.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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>eventually telling me it "can't do that." That might be a good sign though, if they can eventually come up with something similarly accurate to chatGPT that knows how to say "I don't know" then that would be a big deal.

I'm not sure it's so sophisticated. I think it's just recognizing that I'm asking it for code and refusing to help so it doesn't embarrass itself. I wouldn't be surprised if this is basically a hardcoded compatibility check (i.e., not even part of the model itself). I also noticed that this only started after I gave a thumbs down to its first attempt...

I used bard a fair amount today. It's pretty bad compared to ChatGPT. I would basically never use it.
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