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I saw a joke that the CCP has trolled us into shooting down an alien space craft.

Having shot down the Centaurian ambassador, the humans had inadvertently started the first of the great galactic wars. Sadly, they would not be around long enough to take part.

At least it wasn't the Minbari.

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#572

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> Either it was shoot down, or would have been later The jets were scrambled in such a hurry to intercept Flight 93 that they weren’t loaded with ammunition. I’m afraid that the plan was to collide the fighters with the plane if necessary. It was a suicide mission. [1] However, we have plenty of evidence that the passengers resisted and in the course of that the plane crashed. 1. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/fighter…

I'd also recommend taking a look at "The Only Plane in the Sky" by Garrett Graff, which is an oral history of 9/11; basically, a huge number of in-person interviews that construct a timeline of the days leading up to, during, and after 9/11, including those of the pilots who went up in the fighters, knowing that should they need to, mid-air collision was the only option if they needed to intercept something. For what it's worth: a great read, but a tough one. I'm sure you won't have trouble finding a book link, but Politico [1] has an excerpt if you're interested.

[1] https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/were-the-onl...

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#573

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Maybe Japanese fire balloons during WWII? "One of the most unusual military actions of World War II came in the form of Japanese balloon bombs, or “Fugos,” directed at the mainland United States. Starting in 1944, the Japanese military constructed and launched over 9,000 high-altitude balloons, each loaded with nearly 50 pounds of anti-personnel and incendiary explosives. Amazingly, these unmanned balloons originated…

More than 500 Americans and more than 2000 Japanese died fighting in the Aleutian islands during WW2. https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/battle-of-attu-60-years.htm

Asking why Japan invaded the Aleutians is a fun question for flat earthers. On most map projections it's way out of the way but on a globe if you draw a geodesic from Tokyo to Seattle (or Sapporo to San Diego and Los Angeles) it's basically halfway.

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#574

Is there a reason F-22s are being used to take these balloons down? Is it to take advantage of a training opportunity? I would think less advanced aircraft may be more cost effective to operate.

Two kills in two weeks? What an amazing 334 million USD aircraft. We should have more!

First rule of government spending: why have one when you can have two for twice the price!

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#575

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That’s funny, because this was my exact thought. How can they distinguish the difference when they say ‘unknown’ object…

They flew a F35 next to the object. "Unknown" is an overloaded term and it isn't binary (known vs unknown). Plus, they said it was the size of a small car (remember the other balloon's payload was the size of a bus). So while you don't know what exactly that payload is and is doing, you do know it isn't just a go pro. You also know it isn't a velociraptor or Felix Baumgartner.

The ballon in this youtube video is about the size of a (very) small car, and likely reached the size of a large car as it gained altitude (same gas in ballon, but less air pressure around it equals larger ballon). Granted, that ballon had not just a gopro but also a tray of garlic bread, and went higher up. But using a ballon the size of a small car to launch just a gopro seems incredibly reasonable.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8W-auqg024

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So what’s the deal with these balloons? Provocation? Do they think nobody will notice?

It could be to gradually increase reaction expectations so it would not be surprising if China shot down one of the USA's drones. Or perhaps escalate by using their previously demonstrated ability to blow up satellites. The balloon was a very public microaggression that forced the USA to respond in a very public way. China tried the public "oops it was a weather balloon" to give the USA a chance to back off the publi…

China is the only one disputing those areas because they decided to invent new landmass.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#577
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So what’s the deal with these balloons? Provocation? Do they think nobody will notice?

IMO, the balloons are an excuse to raise tensions with China.

America is forcing China to send balloons towards America so that America can raise tensions with China?

Unfortunately, tensions are already quite high in China, due to state media being the only source of propaganda. The state and most tv-watchers have therefore decided that America is the cause of all their problems.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having shot down the Centaurian ambassador, the humans had inadvertently started the first of the great galactic wars. Sadly, they would not be around long enough to take part.

At least it wasn't the Minbari.

That would be a boneheaded maneuver for sure.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#580

Part of me thinks they wanted to shoot down the first balloon, but the president was kind of incapacitated and unable to give the order. That's the only thing I can think of for why they didn't shoot the first one down when it was over Alaska, but they shoot this one down when it is.

Which part of you thinks this?
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