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Post by moneywoes »

nprateem wrote: post #543

I think programmers are often dismissive of business people. Most of us could probably do marketing or managerial jobs if we were interested since we're the ones who really build the product. How hard can the business side be right? People who are serious about business study MBAs for several years, because there's a lot to learn. You're not just going to learn it by reading some influencer blog posts. When you're pr…

> strategic. If you can assess a business idea like an investor you'll stop wasting time on things that are hopeless prospects to begin with

Can you define this?

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Post by kolbe »

bumby wrote: post #556
kolbe wrote: post #544

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Please review the HN Guidelines before commenting. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Says the person who attacked a commenter for being "privileged." I'm just helping defend him against your irrelevant accusations of privilege (even though you know nothing about him) while he's attempting to discuss ways to become successful without being a trust funder. He has given us a very helpful and insightful perspective, and since you cannot add to his useful discussion, you instead interrupt by him being the privilege police, because you think it will get you internet points.

He laid his heart and mind out for our benefit, and you rewarded it by attempting to bully him. Don't tell me I'm being uncivil.

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Post by svnt »

chrischen wrote: post #277
xvector wrote: post #260

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Bezos would not have kept Amazon in the US if it adopted Nordic welfare levels of taxation. The fact of the matter is that the EU has a staggeringly low output when it comes to tech innovation compared to the US. Their policies and regulations shape this.

The US is prized because of its large market… not because it’s a tax dodge. The US dan cut off access to any company unwilling to pay local taxes just like how China forces any foreign company wanting to tap into its large market to give majority control to a local entity.

The US is absolutely a tax dodge because of low capital gains taxes and low corporate tax rates.

Marginal personal income tax rates, which is what others keep comparing here, are only relevant for wage earners.

Re: I am done. I give up

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Post by noveltyaccount »

At one point, about 15 years ago, I realized that if I dedicated myself to my career rather than dividing my attention with startup dabbling in the evenings and weekends, I'd probably be better off. At least for me, focus helped, I landed a job in big tech, and have done well. One thing at a time.

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Post by bnert »

To the OP (if you read this), I appreciate your candor, and you're not alone. Heal well. Heal with your family and loved ones. Lean into them. I sincerely hope you move onto greener pastures.

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Post by marcusverus »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #457
MLH6ft1 wrote: post #291

Dude at least tell us what you were working on? I mean there is zero context to this post. How am I to process the fact your product got zero sign ups when you haven't even mentioned what it is. "Don't make the same mistakes I did", what mistakes have you even highlighted here (and I mean mistakes related to your product and not the fact that you fell for the honey trap posts' of social media influencers)???? 257 com…

> Dude at least tell us what you were working on? Why doe sit matter? Jesus, he was just institutionalized, you people are cruel. And who cares about how long ago the account was created?

OP is not a delicate butterfly. Get off your high horse.

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Post by _448 »

moneywoes wrote: post #524
ht85 wrote: post #132

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Completely agree. Am on my 3rd company, all of them have reached profitability fairly easily. If you don't want to rely on luck, you have to work from the bottom. The VC, top down approach is very risky indeed, but a different game exists. Finding people who have problems that could be solved through better software is not hard. Listen to them. Make their life easier. Generalize, improve, start selling to other peopl…

Where are you finding these customers? May I ask what industries you’ve targeted? Businesses or Customers?

> Where are you finding these customers?

Look around you. What problems do you see, for yourself or for others?

If you want to solve your own problem then that is easy. Then you have to look for other people in your circle (online and offline) who have this same problem and then charge them for that.

If you see someone else with a problem, then talk to them face to face to understand the real issue and whether they will pay. See if there are at least 5-10 people with this same problem, and you have some opening that will start a business.

After that you have to keep hustling to keep this growing. It is a hard slog, but that is how it actually works.

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Post by _448 »

sushzbdbehsh wrote: post #127
_448 wrote: post #119

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> A big fact of the entrepreneur world is that it is hugely based on luck. Luck of finding the right idea, the right market, the right timing, the right connections, the right customers, the right employees, the right financing. This is not true! I have seen successful business built from scratch by people who had no connections, no money and no privileged background (and no VC money). And I will say this for sure, i…

ive seen people that haven't so your point is invalid

See my other comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34106282

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Post by MaGra »

Sorry the three times "at bat" doing startups was such an arduous journey, and more sorry your mental health suffered so greatly. Influencers, mentors, coaches and the ilk are usually all just selling unreal outcomes in a package they try to show as something only they know, "the secrets". I've been fortunate in building things over the years, some small success and some failure and one massive failure. It is hard. Mental health, mindset and balance is so very important. My 02 worth, and you'll likely want change back. Find some early stage startup founders in your town (or online, I guess). If you can afford to take the time to do this. Buy them coffee & ask them if you can work on pure straight commission selling their product/service for 90 days. Maybe do it for a couple startups at the same time? Just a thought and wish you nothing but the best of luck in 2023 and beyond. Be well.
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