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Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Seem crazy to leave Twitter to me. Elon's takeover of Twitter is one of the most significant periods in Internet history. It's a great show. It's an education in how not to do things. It's a thrill ride. You get a front row seat for the show if you're on the platform. I would have thought Paul Graham would want to be there because of all this.

Just because he won't post on Twitter doesn't mean he won't go on Twitter at all.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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post #350

I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

So your initial comments have aged poorly…

From your own feed:

“ People are rooting for him to fail because he's a rich white guy and a political moderate. “

https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1593206076983635968?s=46&t=...

I really really really dislike this whole trend to feel “victimized” while being some of the most successful people in earth. People are “turning” on Elon after being hugely beloved, purely cause he’s doing idiotic things. Plain an simple.

Furthermore, we should hold someone who’s the richest person on earth to higher standards.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Fair enough. I don't think he will be able to salvage this and I've deleted my account to reduce the temptation to return. A reputation is not like a piece of software that you fix and then re-run as though it never broke in the first place. Elon has utterly wrecked his reputation over the last couple of months (and probably longer than that) and it is getting worse, not better. Edit: I guess Paul won't be going back…

Well said, good analogy. There’s the immediate issues of the policy. But there’s the bigger issue of the thought process that led to the policy. One of Elons central criticism of old Twitter management was unfair content moderation policy. And almost immediately he enacts a far worse content policy than anything old management did, in a brazen display of hypocrisy. Even if he reverses course on this one issue, he’s d…

Stand up for your principles and reason from them.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Organizing the efforts of large teams of smart people is one of the most high value activities you can do in our society. Edit: not saying that's happening at Twitter, but it has demonstrably occurred at Tesla and SpaceX.

You mean he hired product managers?

In my experience, product managers do not spontaneously organize to create successful, billion dollar companies, either.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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I'm still on the fence about what to do. As I've written elsewhere today I'm not currently in the best of health and social media takes up a lot of time and energy, also I am wondering whether I should simply not let that go and concentrate on more real world stuff. I do still blog every now and then and I'm on HN in waves depending on how much free time I have.

> social media takes up a lot of time and energy, also I am wondering whether I should simply not let that go and concentrate on more real world stuff. I dont see why more people arent doing this. How much value are these places really providing you in your life. I think its mostly fomo. Maybe theres a gem somewhere in there.

I've gotten a ton of mileage out of social media, met lots of interesting people, made friends from all over the world, made start-up investments (some good, some bad), helped people, have been helped by people and in general found that there are interesting stories everywhere. But that was when I was still swimming in time and now the trade-off is different. As I wrote, I'm on the fence, but the value is/was definitely there.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

#576

It's interesting to see these tech influencers and their lag time on giving Elon the benefit of the doubt before they've had enough. Will Elon ever have a "coming to jesus moment" and realize that he's alienated so many of his peers that he is, in fact, in the wrong? Or is he so delusional that he really does believe he has the answers?

Elon has right-wing reactionary brain worms. In my experience, most people who fall in never get out. I don't have much hope that a billionaire will be an exception to that.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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post #350

I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

I don't think Musk has any negative feedback loops anymore, it's highly unlikely said there is a single person who can tell him when he's screwing up. Or maybe he needs something of Twitter going bust magnitude to get feedback now. I hope that happens so that he can go back to making great stuff again

Any first degree negative feedback loops. But reality has a way of poking its head in, like getting booed in public forums that should have been adoring you.

Fortunately second and third degree feedback loops are notoriously stupid, and wrong, and they’re the problem there, not you.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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> His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. You mean hiring engineers to work on cars and rockets?

Organizing the efforts of large teams of smart people is one of the most high value activities you can do in our society. Edit: not saying that's happening at Twitter, but it has demonstrably occurred at Tesla and SpaceX.

However, it seemed that Elon's mind was more with manipulating Bitcoin rates, and then buying and changing Twitter the last few years. Tesla and SpaceX must be run by other people, which investors and Elon conveniently keep out of the picture.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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This website is heavily left leaning, like most of the internet these days.

..like most of the world, really. I'm not sure where some people got the impression that people are anywhere close to being 50/50 between left vs right.

Elections?
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