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Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by kmarc »

hjanssen wrote: post #29
kmarc wrote: post #13

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worksforme on Linux, MacOS and Android. I have a Bose QC35 and it just works, now for years, reliably. On Linux, it used to work quite okayish with pulseaudio, even automatic switching between profiles, when an application requested microphone. Since pipewire came around, much higher quality.

It works, but the quality is noticeably reduced. Gaming (and using VoIP in e.g. CSGO) on this profile is practically unusable, the quality of sound is so diminished that it is very annoying.

With pipewire you have all the AptX/LDAC/mSBC codecs. Same quality as under MacOS

As for "reduced", as in, worse than simply monoplex stereo headphones (no headset/microphone support), true, but it's a bandwidth-related limitation, not software impmentation limit, AFAIK

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by rewgs »

blackhaz wrote: post #91

My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

I ended up just uninstalling Apple Music so that music wouldn't autoplay in my Prius. Absolutely ridiculous that that was the only way.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by bergenty »

badthingfactory wrote: post #73
Paul_S wrote: post #56

Let me pass on to you some ancient Chinese... er, German engineering wisdom: He who understands wireless communication uses cables.

Any time a relative asks me which printer they should buy, I tell them to get the cheapest Brother laser printer they can find without wifi. I mostly do this to save myself support calls, but it's also the printer I use in my own house.

That’s too much trouble. I like being able to print from any laptop, my phones or iPad.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by cnity »

SilasX wrote: post #452
cnity wrote: post #120

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You have a gift for writing humorously.

Sorry, what was the humorous writing there? Seemed like a pretty direct statement of the facts of their case. The fact that underlying events are funny doesn't say anything about the style of writing, and I don't see any stylistic choices that were going for "deliberately humorous writing", let alone ones that show a gift (though of course the poster might show it in other contexts!).

I think it's a good question.

> Seemed like a pretty direct statement of the facts of their case

That's exactly what tickled me. He could have just said "My car keeps playing the same album when I adjust the console" but chose to focus on elements of the story that are vivid. He let the funny aspects of the situation shine through specifically _because_ he picked interesting elements to state directly.

Anyway, I don't like to pick apart what is humorous to me about something because it spoils the magic :)

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Post by dzikimarian »

jeromegv wrote: post #541
dzikimarian wrote: post #520

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Hmmm, what about these 10 or so comments of iPhone users with various cars?

It's quite clear that all those cars are sending a play command.

Yet, no negative opinions from android users.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by Friedduck »

We need a BT manifesto of how phones, cars, etc should behave: 1. Don’t start any program/activity unless directed. 2. Don’t switch output devices without confirmation.

My biggest complaints are my car taking over a call mid-conversation (I pull in driveway and my wife is on the phone in the house) and now I’m hearing her call; or switching between 2 BT devices when I didn’t ask for it.

Re: Bluetooth remains an 'unusually painful' technology after two decades

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Post by richbradshaw »

NavinF wrote: post #506
lloeki wrote: post #397

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Sort happens by album artist over here, the first one being Take On Me by a-ha, triggering all sorts of physical pavlovian reactions now. Trigger seems to be iOS thinking it's being helpful so that when I "plug" headphones (either physically, bluetoothically, or carplayly) I presumably want to play music. Also, double click on Library in Music.app nee iTunes on macOS. Plays the whole library, linearly, which, like, w…

> iOS thinking it's being helpful so that when I "plug" headphones (either physically, bluetoothically, or carplayly) I presumably want to play music There’s gotta be something else going on because I’ve never had this happen over the last decade. I’m pretty sure the car is sending a play command to the phone every time it connects.

I’ve had tons of cars and only seen this behaviour in one - think was Citroen.

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Post by exabrial »

blackhaz wrote: post #91

My car (Lexus) and my iPhone X: The car detects iPhone presence, like, 50% of the time. If it does detect it, it shows me a couple of half-naked shaved guys hugging each other and begins playing "Songs of Innocence" the moment I turn the ignition on. I tried deleting this song from the iPhone, but it auto-magically restores itself somehow, as if it is in the telephone's firmware. The image of men hugging in shade is…

My android didn’t have this problem. When i switched to iPhone it did. A quick Google search will give you similar results.

I believe this is in Apple problem.

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Post by pnutjam »

bagels wrote: post #379
ricardobayes wrote: post #354

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I see the same happening with a certain new EV that I won't name. It has a nice design, but often gets people stranded, outright bricked through OTA. To the point where dealers advise users not to perform OTA updates. Literal pieces falling off the car while driving. The need to call the tow truck after 2k miles is very common. In normal car terms, it's junk. But people fight tooth and nail to defend it. Exactly beca…

Sounds dire. What car is this, and where can I read about these cars that very commonly fail after 2k miles?

When I was a kid, I mowed the lawn for a neighbor who was a mechanic. He exclusively worked on Porsches. He claimed most luxury cars would break down if you bought one and tried to drive it across the country. He rattled off some known issues that were baked into the manufacturing process, but rich people didn't care since it's mostly a status symbol.

This was in the late 1900's....

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Post by tekknik »

gorgoiler wrote: post #210
dcx wrote: post #180

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They certainly do - walkie-talkies! Edit: Yes, they do exist - you can google this. But on reflection, a commenter below is probably right that it's more likely wireless security cameras, given typical site requirements (range, penetration depth)

Handhelds are usually UHF - in the 446MHz range. Do you know of personal radios that operate in the 2.4GHz unlicensed spectrum?

Drones (FPV), baby monitors to name two. I’m sure there’s more.
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