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The case for bad coffee (2015)

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Re: The case for bad coffee (2015)

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Try the Hills Brothers coffee in the percolator, I think you'll have a revelation. Though best results come from an automatic perc.

Huh, I might try this. The previous time I bought drip grind and used an automatic drip maker. They don’t seem to specify the grind anymore. I suppose I could buy whole beans and grind them myself, but that would seem to be a bit contrary to the spirit of this discussion.

I was a perc user for years - coarse ground Tim Hortons coffee in an automatic percolator I bought at a goodwill.

That said, the best coffee I've had is always with friends.

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I'm currently a home roaster, which I suppose is the direct opposite end of the spectrum from instant "bad" coffee. But I'm a long time drinker of coffee and had phases of everything from instant mixed with hot cocoa mix, to six teaspoons of sugar in diner coffee, to loving starbucks and to hating starbucks (to not caring when I need a cup of coffee). I've never been a coffee snob in the sense that I've never cared w…

What equipment do you use to roast at home?

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Well put. Starbucks has become the LongHorn of coffee: once super-local quality, now a thin gruel of mediocrity with fancy branding. And in the process they've wiped out most independent coffee shops.

Have they? As far as I can tell there are now vastly more craft coffee shops than there ever were.

Per my experience, there used to be a ton (~90s), then Starbucks took off and killed a lot of them (00-10s), and now they seem to be coming back as people avoid Starbucks (20s). But imagine that's subject to regional variance.

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reduce, reuse, _then_ recycle. It's better to not use, or to reuse, then to try and recycle something. Despite the fact that it contains a "recycling" logo, the logo is really more of a indication of which plastic it is, rather than whether or not if it'll ever _actually_ be recycled. Of course, you can eliminate doubt by just not producing the waste to begin with.

I have trouble keeping up with different folks approaches from comment to comment. The other guy mentioned using some that are recyclable so that’s why I mentioned that. Beyond that what am I supposed to do make a pot of coffee that mostly I won’t drink?

you can purchase drip machines that make single servings.

I use aeropress with a steel filter, which makes a single cup and produces no waste. It does take a little more effort than popping a kcup in a machine, but not so much to deter me from making coffee.

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When I still drank alcohol and ate meat, this was me in a sentence. I wonder if liking these specific flavour profiles is common? In the same way that some people like chocolate, others prefer gummies, some don't enjoy candy, period.

Is it a familiarity thing? Did your families/parents like dark roast, ice in scotch and well done?

Not in mine as far as I can tell.

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I’ve gone through several coffee phases, some bordering on extreme — extremely sensitive weighing, timing, $2,000 grinders, $10k espresso machine, etc. My happy medium is just doing basic pour overs, but with really good locally roasted coffee. To me, this is the cheapest and best approach. In fact, even if pour overs require too much work (weighing, timing), then just do drip. But do it with quality coffee. Quality…

This isn’t directed at you/OP, but the anti dark roast thing seems to me to be a distinctively American coffee snob hipster thing. Many places in the world have wonderful dark roast coffee. Honestly, are these people just wandering around Austria, Italy, Vietnam, Cuba, or Turkey complaining about bad the coffee is? Give me a break.

It's literally just the typical "If you don't share my tastes then you are wrong" that you get in lots of dumb snobbery circles.

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Strangely quite a few seem to be drop shipped coffee. Which I didn't know was a thing, but seems to be a real enough business. I'm sure there are plenty of other brands doing it too. https://www.temeculacoffeeroasters.com/copy-of-drop-shipping...

Drop shipping, white label coffee is an enormous business these days - a considerable number of "influencers" have started launching their own "coffee brands". Usually they are pretty cagey about the fact its white labelled.

White label is a much better term for it, thanks.

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I am a coffee addict. I drink what makes me feel better after I have drunk it. At home I have a good grinder, the best supermarket beans I could find (I tested them all, found a brand that was acceptable then bought 40kg online). I simply put the ground coffee in a french press and drink it. Job done. Not the best taste, not the best hit but acceptable. Nescafe or maxwell house for example literally makes me feel sic…

> bought 40kg online You are aware that roasted coffee is a perishable product? After roasting, it is at its best for just a few weeks. After just two months it has lost the best of its flavours, but for "bulk" coffee the taste is often considered acceptable for up to 18 months if sealed (at which point most cheap supermarket brands seem to have their "best by" dates.) I am afraid you will find your 40kg of coffee de…

I drink that in a year. No big difference from start to finish.

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Last time I was in Oregon I tried to go into a coffee place and get a cup of coffee. Now, I'm admittedly not a big fancy coffee guy, usually drinking whatever Dunkin Donuts or McDonald's swill I can get, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out what the hell I was supposed to order. It was all fancy names on the menu and nothing that was just "coffee". I finally just said, "I want, like, normal, I don't know, Eas…

Go to a McDonald's next time. Would you ask for the Applebee special at a fancy steakhouse?

In fact, mid range "fancy" resteraunts often have a "boyfriend special" cheapo burger and fries, with nothing fancy or special about it, for when you don't have the taste, or wallet, for overproduced, overpriced "we cut this normal food into weird shapes" meals.

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I am a coffee addict. I drink what makes me feel better after I have drunk it. At home I have a good grinder, the best supermarket beans I could find (I tested them all, found a brand that was acceptable then bought 40kg online). I simply put the ground coffee in a french press and drink it. Job done. Not the best taste, not the best hit but acceptable. Nescafe or maxwell house for example literally makes me feel sic…

May I ask how much coffee you go through to purchase 40kg in one go? I would expect the beans to go stale, even vacuum sealed.

I like it quite strong. Just under a kilo a week approximately. I start to drink it in the morning and stop around 14.00 I drink tea after that.
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