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Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by distances »

yccs27 wrote: post #536
sealthedeal wrote: post #516

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I love Sublime, still my fave

The instant-opening experience is just soo good, and Electron bloat nowhere in sight... I actually use VS Code as well, but more like an IDE with tons of extensions, and Sublime is my 'basic' text editor.

I tried to use VS Code but just couldn't stand it. I don't want to say it's sluggish but it definitely isn't snappy, not even with a M1 laptop. It's fine, but it isn't good.

I ended up purchasing the upgrade to Sublime 4, definitely worth the price.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by foldor »

theteapot wrote: post #555
folknor wrote: post #551

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Interesting! I just wanted to let you know my perspective, which is probably quite unique. I started using atom pre-1.0, a long, long time ago. I immediately jumped to vscode when I realised it existed. The reason is a bit weird; it's the find-in-files/project (c-s-F/Ctrl+Shift+F) sidebar search/replace feature. Compared to the Atom (and from what I can see in the youtube talk, zed has the same "problem") which opens…

> I code mostly in domain-specific, esoteric, private languages, no stdlib or docs, and no online resources to learn from. Jesus, who are you?

My guess based in my experience would a MUMPS developer for someone like Epic or Meditech. That code gives me nightmares whenever I see it.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by distances »

rjh29 wrote: post #409
aniforprez wrote: post #277

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IMO the killer thing that VSCode has over all the other editors is the wealth of extensions and a certain degree of simplicity. What are your plans for Zed in terms of extensibility and are you aligning more towards making something beefy and full-featured like the IntelliJ offerings or something more "lightweight" like VSCode or Sublime?

IMO the killer thing is performance, VSCode starts fast and is smooth to write with. It blew away the older set of Electron-based editors. They work tirelessly on performance every release and it shows imo. Allowing extensions without destroying perf isn't easy either.

I said basically the same in a sibling comment but I can't agree with you. VS Code doesn't start fast enough and it's not smooth to write with. It's not exactly bad but you definitely feel the slight delays and slowness all the time.

I went back to Sublime exactly to get faster startup and smoother writing than what VS Code was offering. So I'm pretty excited to see how Zed turns out!

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by can16358p »

frostwarrior wrote: post #412
shakow wrote: post #352

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> Atom practically invented the kind of extensions that VSCode had Let me introduce you to Emacs, vim, Sublime, TextMate, ...

> Emacs, vim Unlike VSCode, Emacs and Vim have a learning curve. And turning them into full blown IDEs makes their usage even more complex. > Sublime Sadly, Sublime is sort of dead. > TextMate TextMate: Text editor for macOS

While I don't know about the plugin ecosystem of Vim/Emacs, I definitely agree with the learning curve part.

In Emacs/Vim I can't even escape the program if I don't know a keyboard shortcut.

In Vscode even if I forgot Cmd+W/Q I can simply click the close button. Not to mention that all the shortcuts are just globally used shortcuts in all the other software.

While I respect praising by the community of Vim/Emacs, I really don't think it's beginner-friendly.

So anyone starting a software career virtually picks Vscode, gets used to it, and almost has no reason to switch to something else for now unless they need something extremely specific.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by can16358p »

yccs27 wrote: post #536
sealthedeal wrote: post #516

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I love Sublime, still my fave

The instant-opening experience is just soo good, and Electron bloat nowhere in sight... I actually use VS Code as well, but more like an IDE with tons of extensions, and Sublime is my 'basic' text editor.

Same thoughts.

While Vscode is my IDE now, I definitely love the instant-opening of Sublime.

Ironically, it's even launching faster than TextEdit.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

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Post by akagusu »

bogwog wrote: post #403
akagusu wrote: post #330

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Glad to see that someone remembered FreeHand. It was much better than Ilustrator, this is why Adobe killed it.

I don't know what's worse, that Adobe would do something so shamelessly anti-consumer and anti-competitive, or that the FTC did nothing to stop such an obviously bad acquisition.

Today we can clearly see that as anti-competitive and anti-consumer acquisition, but at time, I guarantee you the FTC saw the agreement as business as usual, since it does not know how to regulate tech companies even today.
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