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Apple unveils all-new MacBook Air, supercharged by the new M2 chip

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Post by jonfw »

WesolyKubeczek wrote: post #561
jonfw wrote: post #407

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I'm currently sitting at my notchless-MBP noting how there is not a single thing in the middle of my menu bar and there never has been. I can't think of a single reason I wouldn't want a notch in exchange for smaller bezels. Especially given the aspect ratio of a Mac is taller such that it doesn't interrupt typical video or photo content

Somehow Dell XPS can do thin bezels without having to resort to a notch.

My XPS (not a brand new one, not sure if this has changed) has a really weird webcam location to get the thin bezel, it's right next to they keyboard

There are always tradeoffs, and I find the notch to be a trade-off with no real loss. Especially on a Mac where the hardware/software integration is tight enough that the notch never poses an issue. I could see a notch on a windows/linux laptop being a more significant problem given that the OS may not be designed to work around the notch so seamlessly

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Post by asdff »

r00fus wrote: post #570
asdff wrote: post #306

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If that means they ship with something like a 45W that's just cruel. I bet the charge merely maintains when the computer is under load.

I charged my 2019 16" MBP on a 29W brick from a M1. Charges fine over (a long) time. I bet my laptop runs hotter than this new MBA.

I had one of the last intel mbas and whatever charger they shipped with that computer was downright anemic. 29W maybe then if that's what yours was? I put the computer under load with a game and the charge actually was trickling down with the thing plugged in and the cpu throttling.

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Post by Arn_Thor »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #473

Oh my god, that midnight colour. I just bought an M1 and knew this would be coming soon. I didn’t expect a new colour that looks so amazing though, haha. I guess I’m selling my brand new M1.

Yes, yikes.. Was forced to get an M1 Air for a trip just last week. This smarts.. But the M1 already blew me away, so I think I'll hang onto it

Re: Apple unveils all-new MacBook Air, supercharged by the new M2 chip

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

jonfw wrote: post #571
WesolyKubeczek wrote: post #561

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somehow Dell XPS can do thin bezels without having to resort to a notch.

My XPS (not a brand new one, not sure if this has changed) has a really weird webcam location to get the thin bezel, it's right next to they keyboard There are always tradeoffs, and I find the notch to be a trade-off with no real loss. Especially on a Mac where the hardware/software integration is tight enough that the notch never poses an issue. I could see a notch on a windows/linux laptop being a more significant…

I had a 9360 which had a “nose cam”, but two iterations later they did it right. 16:10 display, camera in the right place, ultra thin bezels and no notch.

I also need to mention that this thing is light. Lighter than an iPad pro, lighter than any MBAir.

(But I’m still getting the MBAir, because it’s fanless. Fanless still beats no notch.)

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Post by vel0city »

biztos wrote: post #528
quacker wrote: post #408

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The 13" MacBook Pro is so strange. It is identical to the M2 MacBook Air, except: - Worse camera: 720p camera where the Air has a 1080p camera - Worse speakers: stereo speakers where the Air has four-speakers (I'm assuming stereo is 2-speakers?) - Bigger battery: 58.2 WHr vs 52.6 WHr (about a 2hr battery life difference) - Slightly heavier: +0.3 lbs over the Air - Slightly smaller screen: 13.3" vs the Air's 13.6", al…

> I'm assuming stereo is 2-speakers You can't do stereo with fewer than 2 speakers but even if you have 64, you're probably still doing stereo. (Or you are a movie theater.) Generally speaking, you can probably achieve better stereo sound with the 4 speakers than with the 2, but this is not always the case. Coming from Apple, I would normally expect the Pro to have higher-end speakers and thus probably sound better.…

Apple Music has been pushing "spatial audio", music delivered with Dolby Atmos multichannel. So these days you might have 64 channel music.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212182

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Post by shinycode »

KVFinn wrote: post #272
agloeregrets wrote: post #75

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> makes the MBA an entirely viable dev machine for many workloads. So this, like the M1 supports only ONE external display.. so as long as you live the lopsided big-small life, sure.

>So this, like the M1 supports only ONE external display.. so as long as you live the lopsided big-small life, sure. Oh no, you're breaking my heart. Is there no adapter you can buy that splits that 6k thunderbolt bandwidth into two smaller external displays? Okay I just googled, and it looks like there are third party DisplayLink which sort of maybe work, but are not officially supported? But people SEEM to have dua…

I’m using a Dell D6000 hub with two 4K screens using display link and one iMac 5K with a luna dongle. So 4 screens in total with the MacBook Pro M1 with 8gb and all screens at 60hz. Everything is fluid with a web stack (node, angular and tools like Vscode, DB, slack etc). The only thing that puts it on its knees is when I share a screen with some apps. The buffers might not be done the right way. Otherwise it works surprisingly well !

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Post by mhio »

dayvid wrote: post #564
mhio wrote: post #522

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What do you use for an ethernet adapter? I can hardly tell the difference with a RT8153 adapter, then the increase in CPU usage renders it largely pointless.

USB C to Ethernet Adapter, uni RJ45 to USB C Thunderbolt 3/Type-C Gigabit Ethernet LAN Network Adapter, Compatible for MacBook Pro 2020/2019/2018/2017 w/ a CAT 8 Ethernet cable

Thanks!

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Post by yourapostasy »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #529
tablespoon wrote: post #274

> The new MacBook Air features MagSafe for dedicated charging and peace of mind when users are plugged in. MagSafe was one of Apple's best hardware ideas, and I'm really surprised they dropped it for a few generations. I'm glad they realized their mistake and brought it back, though.

Any advantage of this over just a magnetic usb c connector (like $20-30, works with anything)?

The Apple-supplied MagSafe port sits flush to the laptop case. The magnetic USB-C PD connectors are quite low-profile, but I'm still paranoid about it catching and shredding the port (that's a mainboard swap at Apple unless you know about sending it to Louis' shop). Now if I can find a design that is breakaway when it catches to sacrifice itself when put under undue strain, comes with plastic tweezers, and I can buy cheap replacements, I'd be all over them.

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Post by dbbk »

Arn_Thor wrote: post #573
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #473

Oh my god, that midnight colour. I just bought an M1 and knew this would be coming soon. I didn’t expect a new colour that looks so amazing though, haha. I guess I’m selling my brand new M1.

Yes, yikes.. Was forced to get an M1 Air for a trip just last week. This smarts.. But the M1 already blew me away, so I think I'll hang onto it

You can still return it

Re: Apple unveils all-new MacBook Air, supercharged by the new M2 chip

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Post by dbbk »

dmtroyer wrote: post #513
nickpp wrote: post #188

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The whole existence of the 13” MBP is kinda pointless and anachronistic?! It sticks out like a sore thumb with the old-school display and touch bar next to the 14” MBP.

I really don't understand it. I want HN to explain it to me. Is there a whole team and supply chain for the 13" MBP that was too far along in the M2 upgrade design process to stop or something?

Given that it still has a Touch Bar with this update, I would say it's a supply chain thing yes
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